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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, your comment has no bearing on reality. How else do you think nations have formed over the course of thousands of years except through segregated ethnicities, each of which claims exclusivity from others and determines to govern its own affairs? There have certainly been intermarriages on the margins between ethnicities, but this does not mean that the nations in question had a policy of race-mixing, as you mockingly deride. Far from it. 

You should learn from the Bible, and begin by asking why God created distinct tribes in Israel with exclusive inheritances, and banned intermarriage between them unless the inheritance was surrendered. Then you can come back and explain to us why Kinists don&#039;t understand the Bible.

You also suggest that violent conflicts are more likely to arise among homogeneous peoples. This is so preposterous that I hardly know what to say. Compare Sri Lanka, Sao Paulo, and Dallas to the crime rates of any overwhelmingly white place on earth.

The last line of your comment reveals your own prejudice. You KNOW that interracial mixture leads to violence, and your implicit solution is to mix everyone so that we&#039;re all &quot;of a similar heritage.&quot; This hasn&#039;t worked in the places I mentioned above, and it won&#039;t ever work.

Babel does not drive out Babel, and a house divided against itself cannot stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, your comment has no bearing on reality. How else do you think nations have formed over the course of thousands of years except through segregated ethnicities, each of which claims exclusivity from others and determines to govern its own affairs? There have certainly been intermarriages on the margins between ethnicities, but this does not mean that the nations in question had a policy of race-mixing, as you mockingly deride. Far from it. </p>
<p>You should learn from the Bible, and begin by asking why God created distinct tribes in Israel with exclusive inheritances, and banned intermarriage between them unless the inheritance was surrendered. Then you can come back and explain to us why Kinists don&#8217;t understand the Bible.</p>
<p>You also suggest that violent conflicts are more likely to arise among homogeneous peoples. This is so preposterous that I hardly know what to say. Compare Sri Lanka, Sao Paulo, and Dallas to the crime rates of any overwhelmingly white place on earth.</p>
<p>The last line of your comment reveals your own prejudice. You KNOW that interracial mixture leads to violence, and your implicit solution is to mix everyone so that we&#8217;re all &#8220;of a similar heritage.&#8221; This hasn&#8217;t worked in the places I mentioned above, and it won&#8217;t ever work.</p>
<p>Babel does not drive out Babel, and a house divided against itself cannot stand.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, lets not race mix, keep everyone segregated and in a thousand years we&#039;ll all hapily keep to our own ethnic groups.

Yea right. If you provide even more segregation of society (globally speaking), it is natural for conflicts to arise between groups.

However, if in those 1000 years ethnic boundries become increasingly blurred, it is much less likely for wars/conflicts to erupt between groups. 

This would be due to everyone being of a similar heritage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, lets not race mix, keep everyone segregated and in a thousand years we&#8217;ll all hapily keep to our own ethnic groups.</p>
<p>Yea right. If you provide even more segregation of society (globally speaking), it is natural for conflicts to arise between groups.</p>
<p>However, if in those 1000 years ethnic boundries become increasingly blurred, it is much less likely for wars/conflicts to erupt between groups. </p>
<p>This would be due to everyone being of a similar heritage.</p>
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		<title>By: Better Fifty Years of Europe Than an Eon of China &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Better Fifty Years of Europe Than an Eon of China &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lynda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what they do for Laetare (4th Sunday in Lent) in the Novus Ordo but on the Universal Calendar of the West the reading from O.T. is Exodus 3:1-10 on the subject of Moses receiving the Law of God. The Station is Holy Cross in Jerusalem.

The Response to the Lesson is &quot;Then stood Moses before Pharoah and told him: &#039;Thus saith the Lord, let my people go, that they may sacrifice to me in the wilderness&#039;.&quot;

Dimitte populum meum, ut sacrificet mihi in deserto.

Therefore it was the LAST STRAW that Cardinal Andre Vingt-Trois arranged for Rabbi Rivon Kryger to give the sermon for the Fourth Sunday in Lent at Notre Dame in Paris.

For &quot;The Pharisees and the Jews hold to the Tradition of the ancients&quot; Mark 7:3 DRV or The Tradition of the Elders as it is styled in The Talmud. 

And our Lord&#039;s pronouncement on this is:
&quot;You have made void the commandment of God for your tradition.&quot; Matt 15:6; Mark 7:3-13.

So when Rabbi Kryger took command of the lectern at Notre Dame to commit the sacriledge of addressing the Christian faithful on the subject of Moses and the Law, a contingent of young traditional French Catholics &quot;arose as one body and with one voice receited the Apostles Creed and the Rosary aloud in the cathedral.&quot;  Michael Hoffman, &quot;Traditional French Catholics Disrupt Rabbi&#039;s Sermon at Notre Dame&quot;, Wed 24, 2010. Revisionist Review Blogspot.

French television cut the transmission but you can still view this great event in the history of the Church and witness the twat control of the officials who drowned out the voice of the Roman Catholic Church with the organ and choir.

Notre Dame de Paris: Catholics Against Zionism (which would be more appropriately titled) Catholics Against Judaism

www.gloria.tv/?media=61422
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx-ga2jnzCA&amp;feature=player_embedded

Most fitting to the young French Catholics is the Responsorial Benediction of the Holy Gospel for Laetare (John 6:1-5 on the Loaves and Fishes) and the Homily of St Augustine

&quot;Behold I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way. Beware of him and obey his voice; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies and an adversary unto thine adversaries, for mine Angel shall go before thee.

&quot;Ecce mitto Angelum meum, qui praecedat te, et custodiat semper: Observa et audi vocem meam, et inimicus ero inimicis tuis, et affligentes te affligam: et praecedet te Angeles meus.&quot;

Qui ut Deus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what they do for Laetare (4th Sunday in Lent) in the Novus Ordo but on the Universal Calendar of the West the reading from O.T. is Exodus 3:1-10 on the subject of Moses receiving the Law of God. The Station is Holy Cross in Jerusalem.</p>
<p>The Response to the Lesson is &#8220;Then stood Moses before Pharoah and told him: &#8216;Thus saith the Lord, let my people go, that they may sacrifice to me in the wilderness&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dimitte populum meum, ut sacrificet mihi in deserto.</p>
<p>Therefore it was the LAST STRAW that Cardinal Andre Vingt-Trois arranged for Rabbi Rivon Kryger to give the sermon for the Fourth Sunday in Lent at Notre Dame in Paris.</p>
<p>For &#8220;The Pharisees and the Jews hold to the Tradition of the ancients&#8221; Mark 7:3 DRV or The Tradition of the Elders as it is styled in The Talmud. </p>
<p>And our Lord&#8217;s pronouncement on this is:<br />
&#8220;You have made void the commandment of God for your tradition.&#8221; Matt 15:6; Mark 7:3-13.</p>
<p>So when Rabbi Kryger took command of the lectern at Notre Dame to commit the sacriledge of addressing the Christian faithful on the subject of Moses and the Law, a contingent of young traditional French Catholics &#8220;arose as one body and with one voice receited the Apostles Creed and the Rosary aloud in the cathedral.&#8221;  Michael Hoffman, &#8220;Traditional French Catholics Disrupt Rabbi&#8217;s Sermon at Notre Dame&#8221;, Wed 24, 2010. Revisionist Review Blogspot.</p>
<p>French television cut the transmission but you can still view this great event in the history of the Church and witness the twat control of the officials who drowned out the voice of the Roman Catholic Church with the organ and choir.</p>
<p>Notre Dame de Paris: Catholics Against Zionism (which would be more appropriately titled) Catholics Against Judaism</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gloria.tv/?media=61422" rel="nofollow">http://www.gloria.tv/?media=61422</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx-ga2jnzCA&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx-ga2jnzCA&#038;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>Most fitting to the young French Catholics is the Responsorial Benediction of the Holy Gospel for Laetare (John 6:1-5 on the Loaves and Fishes) and the Homily of St Augustine</p>
<p>&#8220;Behold I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way. Beware of him and obey his voice; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies and an adversary unto thine adversaries, for mine Angel shall go before thee.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ecce mitto Angelum meum, qui praecedat te, et custodiat semper: Observa et audi vocem meam, et inimicus ero inimicis tuis, et affligentes te affligam: et praecedet te Angeles meus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Qui ut Deus.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2010/03/in-which-we-call-shenanigans-on-white-worship/#comment-16204</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that several of the comments on the DeMar page are very good. And then there&#039;s race-mixing hyper-preterist Jeff Vaughn, who writes, &quot;the Geneva Bible notes are indeed racist.&quot;

http://www.americanvision.org/worldviewforum/viewtopic.php?f=53&amp;t=1548&amp;start=36

Yes! The first Bible in America was racist! But seriously, African slavery was the worst mistake Americans ever made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that several of the comments on the DeMar page are very good. And then there&#8217;s race-mixing hyper-preterist Jeff Vaughn, who writes, &#8220;the Geneva Bible notes are indeed racist.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanvision.org/worldviewforum/viewtopic.php?f=53&#038;t=1548&#038;start=36" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanvision.org/worldviewforum/viewtopic.php?f=53&#038;t=1548&#038;start=36</a></p>
<p>Yes! The first Bible in America was racist! But seriously, African slavery was the worst mistake Americans ever made.</p>
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		<title>By: David Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Johnson writes: &quot;Just as my race is my nation, my race is my religion as well. I need no other.&quot; We Kinists are quite different. If we are to place our race, our families, or even ourselves above God, the sin of pride could plant its seed within us and grow until nothing else remains.&#039;
Do Kinists believe as Stonewall Jackson believed?
What do Kinists think of Bill O&#039;Reilly, Glenn Beck, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett?
&quot;I like immigrants much more than I like most Americans ...&quot;
— Glenn Beck, March 24, TV show</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Johnson writes: &#8220;Just as my race is my nation, my race is my religion as well. I need no other.&#8221; We Kinists are quite different. If we are to place our race, our families, or even ourselves above God, the sin of pride could plant its seed within us and grow until nothing else remains.&#8217;<br />
Do Kinists believe as Stonewall Jackson believed?<br />
What do Kinists think of Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Glenn Beck, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett?<br />
&#8220;I like immigrants much more than I like most Americans &#8230;&#8221;<br />
— Glenn Beck, March 24, TV show</p>
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		<title>By: clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as a side: The 34 Article pertains mostly to ceremonies and customs in worship. I suppose an argument could be made it likewise pertains to church order. Given England was Erastian, church order included parliament, impacting what we call today, &#039;civil rights&#039;. If the church was segregated, then the same segregation or supremacy would likewise apply to the civil realm, at least in terms of suffrage. I guess the same might be said of how space inside church was ordered vs. that in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a side: The 34 Article pertains mostly to ceremonies and customs in worship. I suppose an argument could be made it likewise pertains to church order. Given England was Erastian, church order included parliament, impacting what we call today, &#8216;civil rights&#8217;. If the church was segregated, then the same segregation or supremacy would likewise apply to the civil realm, at least in terms of suffrage. I guess the same might be said of how space inside church was ordered vs. that in society.</p>
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		<title>By: confed</title>
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		<dc:creator>confed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siegfried,

Mine was the third comment, posted under &quot;j&quot; accidentally. I did not see a post by &quot;Thomas&quot;?

Good observations about their double speak. Either race exists for purposes of distinctions, or it does not for purposes of multiculturalism and denouncing &quot;racists&quot;. 

Of course, the Tzippora, Rahab, and Ruth questions have alternative solutions which are more adequate than the a priori interpretations of race-mixers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siegfried,</p>
<p>Mine was the third comment, posted under &#8220;j&#8221; accidentally. I did not see a post by &#8220;Thomas&#8221;?</p>
<p>Good observations about their double speak. Either race exists for purposes of distinctions, or it does not for purposes of multiculturalism and denouncing &#8220;racists&#8221;. </p>
<p>Of course, the Tzippora, Rahab, and Ruth questions have alternative solutions which are more adequate than the a priori interpretations of race-mixers.</p>
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		<title>By: Siegfried Himmel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siegfried Himmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting thing that came out in the discussion was Rusty&#039;s mention of a group called &quot;Reformed Blacks of America.&quot;  I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s ever been mentioned before on this site.

www.reformedblacksofamerica.org

This could be a step toward black solidarity mixed with good theology - not that blacks need any help with the solidarity part.  But the irony is that they claim to seek &quot;indigenous black leadership&quot; - which would mean separate ecclesiastical structures based on race, which was the policy of those detested white Presbyterians of old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting thing that came out in the discussion was Rusty&#8217;s mention of a group called &#8220;Reformed Blacks of America.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s ever been mentioned before on this site.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reformedblacksofamerica.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.reformedblacksofamerica.org</a></p>
<p>This could be a step toward black solidarity mixed with good theology &#8211; not that blacks need any help with the solidarity part.  But the irony is that they claim to seek &#8220;indigenous black leadership&#8221; &#8211; which would mean separate ecclesiastical structures based on race, which was the policy of those detested white Presbyterians of old.</p>
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		<title>By: Siegfried Himmel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siegfried Himmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confed,

Did you post on American Vision under the name &quot;Thomas&quot;?  Because that was a well-reasoned post.  The rest of the debate was mostly what is to be expected when anemic Presbyterian race-deniers are faced with biodiversity.  

The Presbyterian race-denier has five arguments:

Tzippora;

Rahab;

Ruth;

&quot;it&#039;s about covenant, not genetics&quot; (whatever that means);

and finally, the phrase &quot;made in the image of God.&quot;

(The funny thing is that by saying that Ruth is a &quot;Moabite&quot; and not an &quot;Israelite,&quot; they are acknowledging that different ethnicities do, in fact, exist!  The argument that Israelites practiced interracial marriage only exists if there are, in fact, different races!)

Why, why, why don&#039;t they ever get that you can&#039;t acknowledge the existence of the family and simultaneously deny the existence of race?  I&#039;m not even a &quot;Kinist,&quot; per se, but the concept of diversified nations based on common descent - as the names of the tribes suggest! - is so obvious that the DeMarians must be deliberately obtuse not to acknowledge it.

The &quot;young DeMar with a fro&quot; photo does suggest African genes, but I think it&#039;s just the light darkening his bronze Italian features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confed,</p>
<p>Did you post on American Vision under the name &#8220;Thomas&#8221;?  Because that was a well-reasoned post.  The rest of the debate was mostly what is to be expected when anemic Presbyterian race-deniers are faced with biodiversity.  </p>
<p>The Presbyterian race-denier has five arguments:</p>
<p>Tzippora;</p>
<p>Rahab;</p>
<p>Ruth;</p>
<p>&#8220;it&#8217;s about covenant, not genetics&#8221; (whatever that means);</p>
<p>and finally, the phrase &#8220;made in the image of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>(The funny thing is that by saying that Ruth is a &#8220;Moabite&#8221; and not an &#8220;Israelite,&#8221; they are acknowledging that different ethnicities do, in fact, exist!  The argument that Israelites practiced interracial marriage only exists if there are, in fact, different races!)</p>
<p>Why, why, why don&#8217;t they ever get that you can&#8217;t acknowledge the existence of the family and simultaneously deny the existence of race?  I&#8217;m not even a &#8220;Kinist,&#8221; per se, but the concept of diversified nations based on common descent &#8211; as the names of the tribes suggest! &#8211; is so obvious that the DeMarians must be deliberately obtuse not to acknowledge it.</p>
<p>The &#8220;young DeMar with a fro&#8221; photo does suggest African genes, but I think it&#8217;s just the light darkening his bronze Italian features.</p>
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