Fr. John tried to prove CI with a wacky interpretation of the Septuagint, but Tim Harris rebutted him on First Word.

I am banned from his blog for arguing with him and SWB Admin has told both of us to ‘cool our jets’ on this subject among others – which I do try to respect. But every time I read Fr John’s take on our Lord’s Great Commission, I am vexed.

Discourses on the subject of pre-Adamic hominids vexes me. I will grant you that there are members of Adamic humanity who are definitely not gifted as races with high IQs and technical ability, folk who lack impulse control and basic moral fortitude. And the Jews will drive these wretches to acts that are most truly diabolical. They should live on their ancestral lands and receive the Apostolic law and discipline of the Church to elevate their souls and regenerate them in Christ. But listening to comments that demonize the Khazarian ethnos of wonderful North Americans like the Canadian Jewish author Henry Makow who has suffered long the clueless goyim as well as excellent Christians like Benjamin Freedman and Brother Nathaniel Kapner who have made real sacrifices to renounce Jewry and bear witness for Christ – well, this just makes me mad.

So it is very good to see that Christians who love Patristics aren’t buying the gospel according to Fr John. His link over to the excellent website http://energeticprocession.wordpress.com is supposed to vindicate this pre-Adamic hominid mischief.

When I link over to that website I see an absolute treasure of discussion and reference on Patristics. Also, I spy with my little eye, a box on the sidebar of energetic procession informing the bloggers of the Orthodox outreach into Indonesia which I read with great interest. If ever there was a people who need the Evangel and the Christian faith, it is the folk who worship volcano gods and have to cope with the Mossad over there posing as an ‘Islamofascist’ insurgency. Good on those Orthodox, I say, who are taking the cross of our Lord over there.

Sweet Heart of Mary, be the salvation of Russia, of Spain, Portugal, Europe and the whole world. And by this Catholics mean that the prayer of Immaculate Heart magnifying our Lord above all will prevail upon his Mercy for a great victory for all these nations. He has confided it to her. Our Lady of Kazan still leads the Russias to victory. As a Roman Catholic, I believe this.

I’m not asking you to ‘support such stuff’ – what I AM asking is to determine, FROM PRAXIS, the FATHERS, and SCIENCE (which is often Darwinian, but still makes some amazing discoveries) what the TRADITION of the first 1000 years of Christendom was, vis a vis race, and who the Church was as well. Then, ask yourself, why is it DIFFERENT nowadays? You can’t retreat into a chorus of ‘What the world needs now, is love, sweet love.’ IT just don’t cut it. Therefore, I cannot concur, with that preface, that it [Mother Church] was EVER ‘multicultural’ or ‘multiracial’ like the slutty whore who calls herself Christendom today, is.

Siegfried, I don’t NEED to tell you who my bishop is, or where I was ordained. As a protestant, most of the readers here don’t even BELIEVE in Episcopacy, let alone care about it. Let’s just say that my bishop clearly approves of my ministry, and I fully intend to point out these things to my congregants, and I am NOT giving my ‘c.v. here, because the jews and the antichrists would gladly shut me down, thereby! Moreover, I don’t need to do that, because the example of MR. Seabrook was warning enough. You seek to imply I am ‘preaching’ CI- what if I am showing the CI folk that they are preaching Orthodoxy, and need to abandon their more uniquely ‘baptist’ practices, instead? I do so because, if the modern Church is the Church of the Ages, I’m a buddhist. (and, just to quote St. Paul on that one, ‘May it never be.”)

Kinists can say all they want that they are not ‘racists,’ (though no one now believes them on that score) or that they (now)believe the fallacy that Acts 17:26 encourages miscegenation. (How long will it take to show the error on THAT verse- Doug Wilson only took about ten years to write his vindication of slavery- how much has an Obama presidency revivified Dabney among the conservatives in the Church, and yet, that is not an ‘aberrant’ view?) Well, looked at that way, I say that you folks now understand the fallacy of Gal. 3:28, and I once was (seven years ago) where you are now, and I see even MORE CLEARLY that God does NOT call ‘all men, everywhere’ to repentance- for if the Great Saint [Chrysostom] can say of the Jews (as a race) that they are ‘beyond forgiveness’ ( and he does- that ‘Ugly Truth’ post says it clearly) then that means that there EXISTS/ARE races that are NOT regenerate-able. AND… if an exemplar of a/that race are the [sic] “Jews,” then, proceeding to the text of Holy Writ, you are driven to decide either a) you folks are wrong in applying the promises of Rom. 9-11 to them. or b) St. Paul is a liar. I believe in ‘a’, myself.

If you can shake off the demonic attempts at making the Bride of Christ a polyglot, multicultural whore, instead of the Virgin Bride of israel, adorned for her Kinsman-Redeemer, you might grasp what Chrysostom et al. were talking about, when they didn’t even KNOW that the African was capable of being ‘spiritual,’ like the Rev. Wright… and his most famous disciple. I’ll just wait patiently until you come to where I am now. I understand it’s a steep learning curve, especially without the pnevma.

God bless, even so; for, “You are not far from the kingdom of God…”

Don’t expect him to respond, though. He generally runs away when challenged on his weird hybrid of Orthodoxy and CI, and then comes back a little later to comment on unrelated topics. There has never been a CI movement within Orthodoxy, and medieval Christendom didn’t believe that the white race only was descended from Adam. On First Word, Fr. John was once challenged to unmask himself and reveal when he was ordained as an Orthodox priest and by whom, and of course he never did.

Linder asserts that “the white race is distinct and valuable and its members would be wise to preserve themselves in a group.” This is virtually the definition of ‘a group’ however defined. Christianity would add to this: the white race is distinct and valuable in its nations – its national heritages of its faith, languages, culture, customary laws many of which are institutionalized in the laws of the American republic.

It does not follow that people holding to this belief are beholden to permit their nation/s to be invaded by foreign populations, to legally and economically advantage invading foreigners above those of their own nationals or to allow hostile interests to control their government/s. Linder confidently asserts that he does not need a Bible quote for this. Neither do the Christians.

The fact that modern Christians can not think like this demonstrates that modern Christian institutions have been universally subverted; just as it demonstrates that that Americans who can not think like this about America as a polity of American citizens (of whatever ethnicity) have been subverted. A population that can not think like this has been seriously interfered with. A nation that can not perceive its own interests or accedes to social policy against its own flourishing and posterity has been seriously interfered with. This is the extent of The Problem.

Linder’s assertion that “the liberalism that admitted Jews as equals and destroyed our society is Christian in origin.”

Historically, this statement is false. Jewish emancipation occurred in Europe after the Masonic revolution (inaugurated 1789) overthrew both throne and altar in every Catholic nation state in Europe. In England, the Jews were only readmitted after Cromwell’s revolution (backed by Jewish finance from Amsterdam) had upended the entire country. Only after the Glorious Revolution was the nation of England owned by the Rothschild bank – the City or the Crown.

In America, a masonic republic at its founding, the population has been created by immigration. Many nations (as ethnic people) have rights as American citizens and the American law of traditional, Constitutional jurisprudence. At this time however, it is white America, that is being uniquely and demonstrably deprived of those rights.

At this point it is being exposed on the internet that there does exist a significant population of Americans who think:

invading populations are entitled to all the legal and economic advantages Americans can give them – over and above the rights of American nationals

Anointed Victim / Minority Group dicta against the rights of the majority should be enacted into law

dual nationals holding American and foreign passports should govern the nation

everyone is entitled to freedom of religion except Christians

every distinct group is entitled and empowered to speak in its own interests except white Americans

it is a matter of indifference that crime against white Americans is not acknowledged and indeed is actively concealed (by policy dictate) in the mainstream

it is a matter of indifference that hate crimes against white Americans where the perpetrator is witnessed making statements of hatred, menace and terror against a white victim/s as a white person is not charged with ‘hate’ crime.

For America as for the entire Western world, this constitutes THE PROBLEM.

If the unprejudiced observer would wonder: ‘ why would anyone think this way?’ , it is not to difficult to perceive the social engineering at work: through changing laws (Brandeis: ‘the law is the teacher’), through all media, through commerce and employment, through the public and private educational system at all levels, through litigation, through a virtual raft of action groups, through change agents infiltrating all public orgs, through the churches and so on (and on).

Because of the internet, it can no longer be concealed by any means that the unifying source and agency of THE PROBLEM is a nation organized at the level of an international nation state and government which owns all geopolitical republican states / entities (post the Masonic Revolution inaugurated 1789). A global banking cartel is the instrumentality by which the international nation state of Jewry exercises ownership over nations, republics, soviets and all corporate infastructure. JudeoCartelized Capitalism of the West is now converging with the JudeoSoviet state monopoly socialism of the East. This convergence is Communism.

This is the empire that is is growing out of these dialectical conflicts flaring across the globe.

The nation to whom this empire of Jewry belongs has a code of (its own) racial supremacy; it has its own law (the Talmud) and a law for its subject nations (the Noachaida); it has its own observances; it has its own covert government through its Agentur of secret, masonic societies; it has its own magick or supernatural influence that is camoflauged as a religion. Or its own nationals (who may or may not agree with the Judaic imperium) are camoflauged as liberal, secular, humanitarian materialists or some kind of spirituality. They are of a piece with the population of socially engineered goyim who are adrift in uncharted sociological space bereft of the mainstays of human identity: family heritage, religious faith, national legacy and gender identity. “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose.”

The empire of Jewry and its nation has government at international, national, state and local echelons and at all levels over its subject nations; it has objectives for the consolidation of its empire and the economic utilization of its subject / host nations. Eventually, its supreme object is the elimination of its host / subject nations and for its posterity to enjoy the undisputed ownership of the earth as ‘gods on this planet’.

Their supreme law, The Talmud specifies that even the best gentiles should be killed. The ‘killing out of the goyim’ is not just in the Protocols of Zion. This so called ‘forged’ statement has contemporary expression in a rabbinic document just published in Israel and reported at length in the Israeli press. The legal and rabbinic minutiae of this document removes any conceivable impediment for Jewry to kill out the goyim through its instrumentalities and proxies while absolving itself of genocide. I seriously doubt that any of the goyim will ever know the status of this document under the Sanhedrin.

This document does not discriminate between any of the goyim or between Noachides and Christian ‘idolators’

Even though American jurisprudence is coming under the Talmud code, there does still exist rule of law more honoured in breach than enforcement and prosecution. Under rule of law and traditional American jurisprudence, individuals are recognized as individuals, not as members of a class or ethnicity or race. Under American jurisprudence, albeit not in fact and practice – Illegal aliens are recognized as illegals not because of their race but on the basis of their immigration status. Rule of Law still obtains in America even though both rule and law are being routinely gutted from the top. Yes, it does allow Jewry to operate in practice – but still outside the rule of law. That is, of course, why they are very busy changing not only laws but the foundation of American jurisprudence itself from the Constitution to the Talmud.

At this time, it is still possible for the FBI to round up a crime syndicate and charge them with organ trafficking. It will never be possible under any traditional American jurisprudence to round them up and charge them with being Jews. The time is coming, however, when it will be possible for American law enformcement operating under the new jurisprudence of the Talmud to criminalize white America as a distinct ethnicity of suspected terrorists (homegrowns) and to move against them under the din rodef definitions. It will be possible to move against all Christians as ‘idolators’ under Tamudic hate law.

“Under us people will be arrested on more or less of a suspicion of wrong doing” (Protocols of Zion)

I do not type in the name of the document in question because I do not want the search engines picking it up and bringing another swarm over to SWB. Please read Michael Hoffman’s exposition of ‘din rodef’ in his November posts of “On the Contrary” at his revisionist review blogspot.

The way the legal Revolution is shaping up in the U.S. directly parallels the JudeoBolshevik Revolution where white Russains were held guilty of membership in a proscribed class, (the bourgeouise) and criminalised as ‘anti-Semitic’. They were rounded up as entire populations and exterminated.

As American law in its institutions is being subverted and re-tooled under a new jurisprudence, namely the Talmud, Linder’s statements must be read in this context. He speaks of the Jews attempt to force white America to live on terms that “do not allow our kind to thrive, not even to survive”. He describes a war of survival: nation vs nation. In America, this remains a (hypothetical) foreseen context where the law of the American republic has failed white America in toto and is completely subverted. In such a conflict there are no individuals. People are dealt with as classes and as nationals. The true context of his statements is not the present situation but a war to the knife – a situation of: every gun to the gunfight. He seriously argues for this.

And to implode America through Revolution is exactly what Jewry wants. Why else would Grand Orient Lodges (their school for Revolution) be going up in their key cities. It is like in chess, you position all your pieces necessary for your strategy to work and then you make your move.

All institutions are currently failing white America, most especially government and law. Grass roots organisation, economy and self reliance is what is needed now, a strengthening of white America in the legacy of its true faith. White America occupies ground. And that position must be re-inforced by every means.

As I said before, from a materialistic worldview, the eternal death of all of humanity and all its races is inevitable, so why does it matter whether it occurs sooner or later? Such inconsistencies, tsk, tsk, tsk.

“The ‘image of the Image’ may seem a bit abstraced to those (like the LDS) who see God as their procreative Celestial Father- literally!

But to those who know that YHWH God is ‘wholly other’, this definition makes a great deal of sense. God is uncreated, we are created. But!

NEvertheless, we are STILL created (as Members of the Race of Adam, in contradistinction to all other races on the planet) ‘in the IMAGE and LIKENESS OF GOD.’

That alone sets the Adamic (i.e., White, European, Caucasoid) race apart from all other homonids on the planet, and gives clarification and emphasis on the ‘anti-miscegenation’ statutes of the OT.”

http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/this-is-what-ive-been-saying/

This is self-righteous self-idolatry. I firmly believe, and evidence clearly shows, that the superiority of Whites, both materially and spiritually, is merely that of degree, not of kind.

Quite frankly, you seem to be trying to force Eastern Orthodox doctrines to teach a mild form of “Christian Identity”. And that indeed would deserve to be condemned as “phyletism”. Nor is your mixing of Darwinian “homonid” jargon with EO theosis-idea truly traditional, but an artificial modernist mess.

So you can count me out, as I am not going to support such stuff.

Pigeon Impossible was the BEST thing I have ever clicked to from this site. Hysterical.

Nowadays, the Orthodox in the USA have warped the term ‘phyletism’ to include anyone that would PRESUME to think that the ‘Ecumene’ means, what all the great Orthodox authors knew it to mean- i.e., Continental Europe! SO, any attempts at pointing out that Christianity has for a long, long time been considered ‘the white man’s religion,’ is therefore, being ‘phyletistic’ it’s all so Obamaesque. Invent ‘sins’ where there weren’t any before, and not even base them on the Decalogue, but only on ‘feelings from the Frankfurt School.’

Frankly, with that sort of ‘spin’- even coming from the Orthodox, one begins to see that there a pattern between Massachusetts liberals, the GOA, SCOBA, Dukakis, Stephanopoulis, and Franky Schaeffer- they’ve all traded their inheritance for a mess of baklava. Oppa!

And lost the Gospel in the process….

“In the end, all the Churches will follow Antichrist.’ – Fr. Seraphim Rose.