Like That Guy in The Seventh Seal Watching the Newly Dead Dance Across the Hills
November 5, 2009 
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Be sure to see our Alex Linder thread for some very interesting back-and-forth between Christians and atheists.
“We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct.” ~ physicist Niels Bohr
Please contact these atheists to make provisions for your pets after the Rapture. You don’t want them wandering around like Snoopy with an empty dish.
We’re very, very pleased to see TOQ link to this Taki article about the utter failure of liberal secular humanist atheist Darwinists (whether nationalist or cosmopolitan) to give the white race any hope of a future. They even included a picture of the Duggar family. Religion is absolutely essential to our longevity, writes Hoste. (But keep in mind that a Nietzschean, anti-Christian trick is being played on you, which is explained in the Linder thread.)
[Religious faith is] the only proven method for replacement Caucasian fertility. The potential success in this area of any secular philosophical system is speculative [i.e., wake up from your dreamworld]. Remember that next time you see Bill Maher on TV foaming at the mouth about those stupid Christians who won’t bow before the god of evolution. The ultimate irony is that championing Darwinism has, as Katarina Runske wrote of feminism, been a Darwinian dead end.
Put bluntly, liberal secular humanists are on the verge of extinction…
If, in the end, all evolution cares about is survival, it’s liberalism that must be considered the virus. Our ancestors who had religion survived while those of us without it might not…
The patriarchal and god-fearing will inherit the earth, one way or another.
In the Linder thread, you’ll see that some commenters want to put their heads together (aided by liquor, of course) and think up an alternative to Christianity because they know that, though men have sometimes rallied behind humanism for a short time, it always falters. Thus they are always experimenting, “always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth” (2 Tim. 3:7). They have much in common with libertarians, communists, faggots, feminists, and others whose theories get off the ground about as well as pre-Wright airplanes.
The article’s central flaw is the assumption that religion was not revealed but rather evolved. Why any natural being would find “hope” in the existence of a supernatural being, and why this fiction would lead to the family formation necessary for survival is not explained by the Darwinist writer. How convenient that Darwinists can always plead ignorance and continue their perpetual quest for unattainable truth. How very convenient indeed.
How is the Spenglerian cycle of history presumed by Guillaume Faye any different than a fatalistic belief in reincarnation or the once popular cosmological theory of an oscillating universe? The Christian, by contrast, believes that history has a beginning, middle, and end, and then eternity, all of it either in the shadow or the glow of the central event of history, the cross on the hill of Calvary.
Doug Wilson makes an excellent point in this clip (click on Collision) – or better, here – that Christopher Hitchens and any atheist can respect: Christianity is not good for the world at all if it is not true. Most Christians tend to say that it is good merely because it helps people, or as Hitchens puts it, they think “faith” is synonymous with community organizing. It’s telling that when Hitchens is asked what he would die for, he says “free expression.”
“I think conscience, truth, and um…uh…the commonality of purpose, whether it’s Confucianism, Hinduism, or otherwise.” ~ presidential candidate John Kerry on what unites “people of faith”
Here you can see the Collision duo on the Don Imus show. Wilson makes the very good point that atheists want to believe that we have evolved genetically but morality remains absolute. Sure, they say that morality evolves too, but they don’t really mean it, and in this sense Nietzsche was more consistent than your village Darwinist, because he could see the problem: If “God is dead,” some other basis for absolutes, i.e., truth, would have to be found. Wilson contends that atheists are like the boy who climbs to a great height on the ladder of Christianity and then kicks it away, saying it was never needed. This is very true. They say they don’t really need the Ten Commandments revealed to them because they don’t need anyone to tell them that killing and lying are bad. But of course they do, because those commandments are violated routinely. And once again, we see that without the revealed law they would have no basis for calling anything “bad” or “wrong.” The atheist sees evil in the world but must borrow from Christianity in order to call it evil. He then denies that he is borrowing the answers that his own failed ideology lacks, even while calling his blind-as-a-bat faith “rationality.”
The SPLC is going after Wilson again here, and their desperation is hilarious. I’m just amazed that anyone still takes these Jews seriously.
Even the Wall Street Journal is making the SPLC look foolish. The SPLC calls Craig Bodeker a “bigot,” and then the WSJ favorably reviews Bodeker’s excellent documentary. Dr. Carol Swain calls the documentary “outstanding,” the SPLC calls Swain “an apologist for white supremacists,” and the WSJ, in the politest way possible, gives the SPLC a literary eye-roll but, just to be “fair,” calls Bodeker a “racist” on the authority of the SPLC! It just doesn’t get any weirder. The WSJ unwittingly proves the whole point of the documentary, which leaves Craig smiling broadly, I assure you.
The WSJ then makes itself look more foolish by questioning whether “interracial rapes are racially motivated,” even when statistics show that the numbers could not be more lopsided. “[Taranto] gets so wrapped up in the semantics of what does or does not constitute a hate-crime that he cannot see the larger issue here; the rampant rape and assault of white women by black men today… Just how can a normal person be expected to be concerned about the rare and ill-defined racism of whites toward blacks, yet at the same time be oblivious to the more common, and clearly defined criminality of blacks toward whites?” This is the question we have spent long, sleepless nights pondering. We ask our idiot pastors, and they stare at us with heads cocked to one side, like the dog who wonders if the hat on your head makes you a different person.
Watch this video of Nick Griffin at 40 seconds in. It’s just astounding. Jews are searching for anything they can find to discredit the BNP, even blog comments. I’m not sure why Griffin goes along with the Holohoax so meekly (yes I do – it’s a political move), but he almost gave the perfect answer at one point. He almost said, sarcastically, “It must be true because the government has made it illegal to question.” This is a great way to douse an insidious question with mockery. Then the interviewer implies that a person can’t praise the valor of the British Air Force while also calling the bombing of Dresden mass murder. Anyone who fought against Hitler could not possibly have been guilty of war crimes, don’t you see. He also implies that not a single Nazi was courageous, and if they were, the last thing we should do is notice it. I see Jew desperation here from start to finish. They’ve already made it illegal for the BNP to have a racially-exclusive membership, and they don’t know what else to try.
A good clue to their contempt is Griffin standing before Parliament to charge party leaders with war crimes for waging illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. “The Nuremberg War Crimes Trials set the precedent when the leaders of Nazi Germany were charged with invading other countries which represented no military threat to Germany.” Bush and Blair could be hauled before a similar tribunal for the same reason. Notice the absurdity of repeatedly asking Griffin his opinion on events of 70 years ago while the current leaders of Britain are doing the same thing the Nazis did! It’s so absurd that I have trouble believing it’s not American.
But of course, the news that has dominated the British kikenpress is the lynch mob arrayed against Griffin in a candidate’s forum called Question Time. Here’s a hilarious but almost accurate abridged transcript:
Mr Griffin, I’ve got a puppy in this bag. Very cute. But it’s a black puppy. Am I right in thinking that you, and members of your odious party, would like to kick it to death and then eat it?
It was clearly a stacked audience. I counted one sympathetic question from the very back of the room which was promptly ignored. One witty sod purposely addresses Griffin as “Dick” and then changes it to “Nick.” Oh, I say, those cheeky, ribald Brits! Snort, snort. Honestly, you need to see the men in the audience who worked their way up near the front. I can’t recall ever seeing a more effeminate lot.
The panelists and audience were all quite outraged that words like “genocide” and “indigenous” are used by the BNP. Griffin made the self-evident point that not a single person there would dare go to New Zealand or Australia and pretend not to know that the Maori and Aborigines are the indigenous peoples of those islands. But for the island of Britain, whites are not allowed to be indigenous. One black woman (an “expert” on “culture”), who is married to a white man of course, went all the way back to the Ice Age in the attempt to show that the island was once uninhabited, and therefore Pakistanis have just as much right as the natives to be citizens. She tries to say the word “Neanderthal” but can’t pronounce it. (Insert your own Neanderthal joke here.) The retardation of the blacks, both on the panel and in the audience, is as stunning as ever, and everyone else either smiles nervously or ignores them, as though they are like the child at a dinner party who can’t stop fiddling with his diddle. See part 5, 3:20, for a good example.
Winston Churchill was a big subject during the debate, all sides wanting to claim him. But as Griffin said, the others would not have really been so eager. In 1955, Churchill said immigration “is the most important subject facing this country, but I cannot get any of my ministers to take any notice.” And they still take no notice. He also wanted the Conservative Party to adopt the slogan “Keep England White.” The idea expressed by the crowd that just because there are some Indian-sounding names on headstones in a WWII cemetery somewhere in Britain means that Britain must necessarily become Asiatic, is nothing less than ethnic cleansing.
But in spite of it all, the consensus is that Griffin did not do a good job. Rather than learning from David Duke, who handles the media the way a farmer handles a tractor, he actually posed as one who is rescuing impressionable youths from Duke’s influence.
Duke comments on this here and here with fantastically helpful advice that we all need to learn. For instance:
The most powerful points you repeat and bore in. When you have your debating opponent on the ropes, you finish him off. Nick pointed out that he was, unlike Straw, opposed to the disaster of the Iraq War. But Nick should have waded in and made the death blow of argument saying something like, You are responsible for the lives and limbs of thousands of Brits and 2 million Iraqis in a war based on lies, and you have the nerve to question my morality, you hypocrite? If I were in your position, we would have not gone into that insane war! And your policies on immigration are just as devastating. We have lost even more Brits, including the most innocent of us, thousands of women and children, beaten, robbed, raped or killed due to the massive numbers of brutal crimes that have come from your destructive immigration policy! That is a fact that cannot be denied, but one that is ignored by our controlled media and controlled politicians.
That’s how you do it.
But like Jared Taylor, Griffin has staked a philosemitic position, and he feels that he must ride that wave until the inevitable, head-over-heels wipeout. A good example of the futility of trying to play nice with Judaics: When Griffin said, “I am the most loathed man in Britain in the eyes of Britain’s Nazis” (part 2, 3:37), the kikenpress headline the next day was “I am the Most Loathed Man in Britain.”
Griffin came out swinging the day after the debate.
The desperation of the ruling class has been fun to watch. It didn’t take long for many liberals to realize what Griffin himself knew from the start, that attacking him so blatantly would backfire because it would make his views even more widely known. In other words, even bad press is good press. And it has backfired. Support for the BNP is up over 300%, and still the liberals are chanting that no one is actually voting for the BNP, only against established parties.
Outside the building, there were protesters pounding on the gates. Liberals love to talk about tolerance and diversity until they actually meet it.
According to these objective newsmutts, “The BNP is like salmonella, satanic abuse and paedogeddon…”
The former head of the Church of England calls Griffin’s statement that Muslims need to accept that England is a British and Christian country “irredeemably evil.”
London is no longer British. See how many white people you can count on the street.
According to a former advisor to Tony Blair, the Labour Party opened the multiracial floodgates in order to rub the noses of the Tories in it. Once again, internecine conflict is the white race’s worst enemy. Sadly, I’ve heard American Southerners talk the same way. Much of Obama’s support during the election was from conservatives for the same reason.
It is racist and a serious crime in England to disagree with a Muslim. Now this couple will likely lose their business in a country that still pretends to protect free speech. There is no longer freedom to share the gospel in once-Christian countries, which is the ultimate Jew victory.
A map of nationalist parties in Europe.
We need a European revival, not a classical revival.
“Our ethnic homogeneity is a blessing,” says a South Korean. “Even a friend of mine confided to me that when he sees a Korean woman walking with a foreign man, he feels as if his own mother betrayed him.”
Just in time for Obamacare, HIV positive immigrants are being officially welcomed.
And let’s be clear. Our criticism of Obama does not mean we are racists. How could we be racists? We hate his white half too.
Proximity to Canada engenders trust. But not because there is magic dirt to the north. It’s because there are more white people to the north. According to a recent Gallup poll, if you happen to lose your wallet, you want it to be lost in Utah or South Dakota. If you lose it in Negro-filled Mississippi, you will surely never see it again. It doesn’t seem to help that almost every black person in Mississippi calls himself a Christian.
Thar’s racists in them thar hills!
“The crucifix creates discrimination.”
Short names without strange marks over the letters are racist. “I came into this landmine of Anglos versus Spanish versus Mexicans versus Indians versus everybody up here.” I thought diversity was our greatest strength, not a landmine.
Cookies are racist. Pulling them from shelves has nothing to do with pandering, of course.
To notice a pattern is racist, and four-year-olds are the worst offenders.
Forty thousand racist schoolchildren!
“Everybody’s racist,” says the black, $475,000 a year, New Orleans “recovery czar.”
Actual pictures that were visible for a week on the RNC’s Facebook page.
Even those who try to get a white man hired in a position of authority in an all-black city will lose their jobs. “They’ll hire black police officers with outstanding warrants for battery, but a white chief would be beyond the pale.”
“Racists” aren’t the only ones being fired without cause. Here’s a Christian who has been fired from the Mexican Depot for having a button with the word “God” on his apron.
Even Ghandi’s grandson has been fired for saying that Jews “are the biggest players” in a global culture of violence. It’s a crime to offend Jews.
Someone is shooting at the wife of Lou Dobbs. This is why we get very upset when preachers and other scoundrels use communist words with the intention of stirring up resentment against us. Liberals have been slandering Dobbs for a long time now, knowing it would all lead to violence, but Dobbs knows that he doesn’t have the luxury of hate crime laws to protect him.
The mockery of marriage intensifies.
Two homos = “family.”
It didn’t take long for Keith Bardwell to be hounded from office after 34 years for his bold stand for traditional marriage. Now he faces a “civil rights” lawsuit.
Do the words “wonderful” and “mixed-up” go together? Race-mixers think so. Almost 10% of all children in Britain are now mongrels. Notice that the writer, a geneticist, blames our instinct for consanguinity on “our predilection for holding tightly to our caste systems and religions.” Social hierarchy and religious faith are to blame, she says. Contrary to all evidence, as though she is living in a parallel universe, she writes that “mixed-race people are more symmetrical than the rest of us, and being more symmetrical translates into being more attractive, having less infection, being less stressed, and having greater genetic diversity.” In this alternate universe, “mixed-up” really is synonymous with “wonderful.” Towards the end, when she writes about Brazil, her article sinks to a level of imbecility that rivals the term papers of Education majors.
Some new American voters had an unfortunate incident at their mamzer shower.
Here’s a textbook from 1953 called When You Marry. The great thing about matrimonial advice from the 1950s is that most Americans were still Christians then. Liberals had not yet come to dominate churches (although this was certainly a work in progress at the time), and therefore most Americans still had a Christian understanding of marriage and were repulsed by miscegenation. Have a look at this illustration. Now teach your children what marriage is all about, and tell your lying pastor to stuff it.
Pippi Longstocking is copulating with a Negro too. There should be a law against public indecency.
A simian named Carlton Banks is proudly attracted to white girls, which is why we must protect those girls from bestiality.
Miscegenation as a fruity musical. Even fruit salad is hateful because you can still distinguish the pieces. It’s time to banish the segregation of the produce aisle. Dr. King had a dream!
Tonight I’m going to run my supper through the blender. If all races are equal then why can’t our meals also be equal? I’ve taken up painting, but I like to mix all the colors together, in the name of equality, until I get a sickly gray-green color. I feel that this indiscernible-splotch technique of painting is necessary to avoid being called a racist by the PCA. Racism, according to these geniuses, includes “any activity by individuals or institutions that treats human beings in an inequitable manner because of color.”
Barney Fife and the beaners. Back when Mayberry was white, Andy Griffith didn’t carry a gun, and Barney was constantly in search of his lucky bullet. Here are Mayberry’s five most wanted today.
We need more American voters like these charming people.
“Nancy Grace would probably have an epileptic seizure on live TV if she heard about five white kids doing this to a black kid.” Balloon stories are considered far more important.
Has anyone ever seen a “thug mentality” or “immaturity” roaming the streets and killing people? I didn’t know they could take bodily form. I know Negroes like to do these things though.
“Not only are blacks nine time more likely to be murderers than white people, black men are about two and a half times as likely to be serial killers than white men.”
As you know, when we hear of crimes like the more than two hours of hell endured by the 15-year-old girl in Richmond, CA, we seethe with anger at “Christians,” who have allowed our country to be filled with trash in the name of “Christian” equality. Theirs is a false gospel, and every one of our Christian forefathers would have agreed with us. “While Richmond, California is only 26 percent Hispanic, Richmond High School is 78 percent Hispanic, 2 percent white.” A sniffly friend of the victim says, “There are Mexicans and blacks around me everywhere.” The Jewmedia calls that hate talk. Notice how the lying sacks-of-shit on CNN never mention the source of the crime. Like a columnist for the Contra Costa Times, they believe that all races rape equally, and race has absolutely nothing to do with anything, except in a negative sense, when whites, as a race, expect to keep their own property. In other words, they believe that race is imaginary but racism is real. This girl was beaten and raped by up to ten men, which would have been bad enough, but others also came to gawk. Instead of reporting the crime, they took pictures with their cell phones. And Salon Magazine calls us white bloggers “racists” for talking about it.
Crimes that are perfectly explainable are always said to “defy explanation.”
A walkthrough of the hell house.
Thanks be to God that Lemaricus Davidson will someday soon be executed. His defense attorneys tried their best to deniggerize him by dressing him like a college student, but it didn’t work. And of course, it goes without saying that he was a model citizen and Bible study leader when in a group home, etc., etc. Justice is finally served. As to the charge, popular on nigger websites, that Christian and Newsom went to the hell house looking for drugs, Gary Christian says: “And that Channon Christian may have had consensual sex with that animal, over my dead body. The next person that says out of their mouth that my daughter had consensual sex with him, ain’t got but one person in this world to deal with and that’s me, over my dead body.” Sadly, two rapists are still roaming free. This is actually very foolish of them, because the police will treat them much more humanely than some other people we know.
The sheriff and DA decided that these gruesome crimes were not racially motivated “hate crimes” because the main perpetrator “had been sleeping with a white female.” In fact, there seemed to be an endless stream of white skanks who paraded to the witness stand. It apparently never occurred to the sheriff and DA that rape and murder were just additional ways of treating white women like the trash Davidson believed them to be, just as Michael Vick treated dogs. “Imagine a white male trying to claim he can’t be charged with a hate crime because he has socialized with black people in the past. People would just laugh. In fact, a 14-year-old white boy in suburban Chicago was charged with a hate crime last year for using a racial epithet toward his black girlfriend after she broke up with him.”
The judge in the case made “Knox County judicial history,” according to Knoxville News Sentinel reporter Jamie Satterfield, when he informed the jury that it is more expensive to execute a prisoner than to send him to prison for life. Then he said he didn’t want that fact to influence the decision of the jury. The prosecution asked him why he brought it up then. It’s not even true. As Satterfield discovered, there is a study showing that “a death penalty-eligible prosecution is more expensive than one in which the worst potential sentence is life without parole,” but execution instead of a life sentence without parole saves taxpayers about $770,000. Part of the cost for the trial is because an appeal is mandatory, and only the most expensive lawyers (death penalty-certified) are allowed to work the case. So Letalvis Cobbins, who was convicted of the most grisly rape and murder imaginable, will cost Tennesseeans more than three-quarter million dollars too much because the jury, thanks to the shenanigans of the liberal judge, failed to send him to his well-deserved death.
As Stix notes in his article, blacks can be counted on to not send blacks to their deaths, regardless of the crimes they commit. The racially stacked jury in the first trial made all the difference, and Cobbins got away with almost the lightest sentence possible. Davidson’s defense team banked on the one black juror to “hang” the jury. (Is it racist to use the word “hang” when referring to Negroes?) Read about the other defense tactics. They even tried to get the evidence collected at the crime scene, including Channon Christian’s corpse, suppressed because an investigator forgot to sign the second page of the search warrant. This is why people hate lawyers. The defense “perpetrated their unscrupulous smears of the character of the victims in court in the presence of their grieving families.” Hence Gary Christian’s anger. You can see why many victims remain silent. To go through court is like being raped all over again. Such is the bitter fruit of “diversity.”
Hugh Newsom says it’s deplorable that his son, the victim, is being put on trial, yet even he feels the need to present his son’s non-racist bonafides by referring to a black kid at a motorcycle shop he once helped. God help us.
For the sentencing phase, the defense “switched to the standard pity play: ‘Hey, I’m depraved on account I’m deprived.’” The old tried and true Negro excuse, that they act like animals because they’re poor. “Some of the same weepy, pathetic relatives who had testified in Cobbins’ defense reprised their performances.”
Spurious brood like Davidson and Cobbins and their co-bastards, and the astronomical cost of their crimes, are why a New Zealand politician named Michael Laws is proposing that the “appalling underclass” be given financial incentives not to breed.
Liberals loved Alex Haley’s plagiarized novel, Roots, but this other work, in which Malcolm X is revealed to be a queer prostitute, has not been as well received. Malcolm apparently had the same sexual proclivities as the Knoxville terrorists.
The Attorney General admits that blacks are too stupid to learn what they’re voting for; they have to be told to vote Democrat. This is another one of those things that would be impossible to make up if it weren’t actually true. How, in the name of Justin Martyr, were these people ever handed the reins to our future?
“Catareon” and “Ladareon” (what the hell?) were fatally burned in a fire, and their “unt” doesn’t feel bad about leaving them alone. In fact, she’s more worried about her food stamps being burnt.
A staggering “90 percent of Black youngsters will be on food stamps at some point during childhood.” How much more money can we spare?
A staggering 90 percent of the Forbes 400 is either Aryan or Jewish.
How to get rich during a recession.
“Christmas is under assault because white people are under assault. It’s why manger scenes are banned on government property in December, but menorahs are everywhere. It’s the same reason you can’t even mention the Bible in most schools, but there are public and charter schools all over the country teaching Islam and Kwanzaa. Those religions are fine, because they’re non-white religions… Really, the only holidays we should be observing are Cinco De Mayo, Martin Luther King Day, Juneteenth, Harvey Milk Day, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Hanukkah, and Holocaust Awareness Day.”
The president of the Catholic League asks: “Where have all the comedians and late-night entertainers been in cracking jokes about rabbis raping kids?… Last year, 40 minors in this small Jewish community said they were abused. Last year, there were 10 such allegations in the entire Catholic Church in all 50 states. Catholics are fed up with the duplicity.”
Bishop Williamson has been fined $16,822 for saying that he doesn’t believe any Jews were killed in gas chambers. Blaspheme Jesus Christ and you won’t be fined a penny. In fact, you’ll become so popular that you might need to hire a booking agent. Now a black comedian, “Dieudonne M’bala M’bala, has been fined $30,000 by a French court for inviting Auschwitz revisionist Robert Faurisson on stage in Paris during a satirical skit, to massive applause from the audience.” This fellow has accused Jews of “memorial pornography,” which is a very good way of putting it, I think.
Jews do some gassing of their own, this time to a woman who walked on the wrong sidewalk. She’s obviously an anti-Semite.
A Jew-maggot has made it impossible to buy David Irving’s books with the American Express card. Jews and free speech go together like oil and vinegar – always reluctantly and never for long.
A few brave men are standing firm against the Jewish reign of legal terror. A law professor at the University of Rome has said he believes that legends need to be verified, and for this shocking statement the Jews of Rome are taking legal action against him. Your Judeochristian pastor is on the side of the Jews because they are The Chosen. We prefer to be biblical in our nomenclature and call them anti-Christs.
Another “hate crime” hoax and another Jew spy for Israel.
It is anti-Semitic to compliment a Jew by calling him thrifty. As always, your punishment is the loss of your job. It’s always amazing that do-gooders punish innocent women and children whenever they’re offended. There are plenty of “Christians” who are like this too, which is even more amazing.
Jew John “Podhoretz more or less implies that Judaism is, in essence, a faith focused upon one lineage, a religion of race. In his concluding chapter, he argues that liberalism threatens racial suicide for the Jews: ‘fashionable conceptions of what constitutes progress and how to define justice…could be tantamount to committing suicide.’”
A Hungarian member of parliament has said that Jews want to devour the world with their capital. Paradoxically, Europeans are bolder on the JQ even though their hate speech laws are more repressive.
Rudy Giuliani tried to give Jews a wink and a nudge about having a black mayor and the massive crime wave that followed, and now he’s being called a racist. Then Mayor Jew Bloomberg tried to defend him with more racist talk! “Remember, white folks – never, ever say anything negative about a non-white, no matter how true it is, or you’re a racist.” Someone needs to put this helpful advice on Wikipedia under the definition of racism.
In this old Commentary article (Feb 1963) from Jew Norman Podhoretz, after describing the “hatred I still feel for Negroes,” he mentions “the disgusting prurience that can stir in me at the sight of a mixed couple.” He ends by saying he “wouldn’t like it at all” but he hopes he “would have the courage to curse myself” if he were inclined to prevent his daughter from marrying a Negro. He would have made a good presbyterian.
What a difference 20 years or so makes for the Christian Right. Beverly LaHaye and D. James Kennedy endorsed this comic book that refers to queers as “fags,” “homos,” and “perverts.” Prominent evangelicals would never do this today.
It probably will surprise no one that, among Christians, holy rollers are at the bottom of the IQ heap.
Notice, in this video, that even when pro-lifers say and do some things that are off to the left, you can’t help but notice one important thing about the movement: it is almost completely white. If not for whites, there would be no pro-life movement, and that’s not debatable. Has there ever been another race who cares so deeply about others that they would put their lives on the line to bring an end to immorality? Go to Mexico or India or China and see if you find anything of the kind. This is just a glimpse into why the white race, perfected by the holy faith, has been the greatest blessing to the world. Some might say the only blessing to the world. Without whites, the world would spiral into anarchy.
Marines in Afghanistan are burning $320,000,000 in fuel every day. “Only a country totally out of control would squander resources in this way.”
Take up the White Man’s burden -
Send forth the best ye breed -
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives’ need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild -
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child…Take up the White Man’s burden -
The savage wars of peace -
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Afghans get to vote on how many gallons of American blood will be shed to keep their regime in power. Democracy at work!
“At least Rep. Ron Paul wants to audit the Federal Reserve and eventually abolish its counterfeiting operations. This is a good start. Mr. Paul’s economic philosophy is seriously flawed at its heart, however: he espouses a ‘free market’ philosophy based on Ayn Rand’s open advocacy of selfishness and greed, which sees nothing wrong in usurious shylock interest, which is the actual root of our economic crisis. Avarice is a mortal sin, not a virtue. (Paul’s son is named Rand in honor of this guru of greed.)”
“To say [that John Brown was] a homicidal maniac misses the point,” says a damnyankee.
They all look alike. “No, I’m the other media-hungry Negro scam artist.”
Sikh freaks in need of a chiropractor.
The twenty whitest colleges. Topping the list is R.C. Sproul Jr’s alma mater.
Girls, binge drinking, and public lewdness.
I wish I had a collar like Chet Atkins and a pencil-thin moustache like William Powell. By the way, William Powell and Myrna Loy had the best screen chemistry of any couple in film history. Rent their old “Thin Man” mysteries from Netflix.
Excellent post, guys. The humor today is outstanding- especially the ‘You Can’t touch this’ analogy!
Also, note the historically higher place Anglican/Episcopalians have in those IQ ratings. Hmmmm. Must be the incense. lol
“We’re very, very pleased to see TOQ link to this Taki article about the utter failure of liberal secular humanist atheist Darwinists (whether nationalist or cosmopolitan) to give the white race any hope of a future.”
-Admin.
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Your point here kind of caves in on itself since atheists seem to only make up around 2 to 4% of the worlds population. Even in Western nations atheists are a minority.
So it would seem theists are doing no more than atheists, numerically speaking, for The West.
Even France, the most “godless” nation in the world, is only 33% atheist. The majority are theist according to the Eurobarometer poll in 2005.
But I don’t know why you’d express happiness – “about the utter failure of liberal secular humanist atheist Darwinists (whether nationalist or cosmopolitan) to give the white race any hope of a future.”
I generally like your site admin. but the above statement and your suggestion (on the Linder thread) that Whites who adopt non-Whites are doing more for the White race than those who have no offspring tends to cast your aims too far into a personal philosophical realm at the expense of the collective biological one.
The overwhelming majority of Whites are, in fact, theists. That fact doesn’t seem to help us much.
The majority of White Americans are Christian today and they are losing their nation and many, if not most, seem to be quite happy about that.
If atheists seem to be holding your feet to the fire it is because theists are numerically (and thus economically, politically and culturally) second only to the chosenites in power and influence in The West. You presently outnumber White nationalist atheists about 10,000 to 1 yet you keep ‘leaving the 100 to throw rocks at the one.’
Or to put it another way,
I have met the enemy of the White race, and he is wearing a WWJD t-shirt…
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Narrator, I don’t know why some of you are unable to grasp the logic that if Christians once built a thriving civilization, and now our civilization is crumbling, and Christians today disagree vehemently on kinship with Christians of yesterday, then it means that true Christianity is not the same thing as all the nutty and suicidal things being done in the name of Christ in our time. You and Alex and the other atheists continue to insist that charlatans discredit the authority of the Bible, then we say that the Judeochristian suicide cult of the 21st century is not Christianity, then you ask who we can find out there who agrees with us. Don’t you see your lapse in logic? Just as in the olden days, there are thousands who have not bowed the knee to Baal.
Secondly, neither I nor anyone else who writes here necessarily believes “that Whites who adopt non-Whites are doing more for the White race than those who have no offspring.” I think you’re referring to the end of the Linder post where there is a link to a church in which some members adopt non-white children. We think this is dead wrong and unbiblical, but our point is that it’s easy to see how Christians are the ones who are doing it, because they love children. Sometimes love is misplaced, as many parents know who wish their young adult son or daughter would set sights higher for a mate. Even though there is some tragic adoption taking place, Christian families are still having more white children than anyone else, and this is not going to change. The follies of some of them are terrible, but in spite of the follies, these are the people who are saving the race.
Lastly, in reference to “leaving the 100 to throw rocks at the one,” I want to make it very clear that our primary objective as Kinists is to glorify God, not to save the white race at all costs. In fact, we are very open about our belief that if the white race persistently denies Christ, it deserves to perish and be erased from memory. We don’t believe this will happen because we know that God rescues us from our sin. He has a great purpose for the white race, as has always been true. But we worship God, not our race, and we say with Job, “Though He slay me [or my race], yet will I trust in Him.”
Thank you SWB for your comments on embattled MEP (better known as MeEP) Nick Griffin, one of two BNP members elected last year to the membership of the European Parliament. And thank you for your link over to the story on the fallout of Nick Griffin’s remarks from the Question Time programme (aired on the Beeb Oct 22, 09). I totally agree – as that story unfolds it has been great fun to watch the desperation of the ruling class.
For my sins, I particularly enjoy the spectacles of the liberals stewing in their own juice. Unfailingly instructive is their damage control under the influence of the heady melting pot stench (and its effects). For sheer Twat Value alone, I give the “Question Time” fallout story 10 out of 10.
Your link was to James Chapman’s report for the Daily Mail: “The BNP Backlash – MP’s Accuse BBC of Playing into Nick Griffin’s Hands by Stage Managing Question Time Onslaught.” This story is still unfolding and I think SWB readers will want to follow it. Heads will certainly roll. Which heads? We wait with interest. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222586/The-BNP-backlash-MPs-accuse-BBC-playing-Nick-Griffins-hands.
“Question Time” (broadcast by the Beeb) is a current affairs Q&A program. The format features a studio audience of what the Beeb describes as ‘a random cross section (wink wink) of the British public’ from the town or city from which “Question Time” is broadcast. The idea is that the British public is given a media forum in which to address their leading questions of the day to public figures and politicians. Kind of a ‘let the sheeple think they have a voice in public affairs’ con job.
But for some reason the Oct 22 episode of “Question Time” drew a record of 8.1 million audience. Was this because they wanted to hear the panel answer questions about the postal strike which was the leading story of the day in the JewMSM? Was it because David Dimbleby (Top “Question Time” Twat and Spinmeister for the Beeb) would chair the panel? Or was it because the 8.1 million British viewers knew that (being broadcast from London), the programme would inculde MeEP Nick Griffin on the panel? And regardless of the questions put by the studio audience, Nick Griffin would have plenty to say.
And DID HE EVER. To put it mildly, Mr Griffin did not disappoint. He claimed that “London has been ethnically cleansed” (of native Britons). He stated that Islam was “wicked”. He referred to homosexuals as “creepy”. He stated that teaching homosexuality to school children was “perverse”. Well! I never. Those 8.1 million viewers certainly got a lot of value in terms of censored and persecuted / prosecuted speech. All that was needed was a holocau$t statement. But maybe MEEP Griffin does not intend to go to jail just yet.
These statements were broadcast to an embattled nation. It is a nation where if little Bobby Fish & Chips calls little Abdul a felafel in the playground, THEN little Bobby is placed in quarantine at his school and his parents are interrogated by the Thought Police. They have the legal power to remove him from his family if they think he is learning ‘RACISM’ (the unforgiveable sin) in the family home.
If Lil’ Jon Bro Carib calls little Bobby Fish & Chips a White A** M*F*ck*r that’s not RACIST, that’s just Lil’ Jon Bro expressing his opinion.
In the proper British School, Little Bobby Fish & Chips has to learn that Trey and Raoul, their 2.5 cloned children and the family centaur: ‘Biscuit’ are a normal / natural British family. He has to spell holocau$t with a capital “H”. He has to learn that the evil Germans tried to exterminate God’s Chosen People. And now, God’s Chosen People (who own his England) have a New Covenant of ‘Never Again’ in the blood of the holocau$ted Six Million which gives the Chosen the RIGHT to break every law of God and man. He has to call the ethnic cleansing of his nation: multiculturalism. Etc and Etc. And little Bobby Fish & Chips had better get this RIGHT or he might lose his mother and father. Or his mother. Or his father.
With this in mind – now why did those 8.1 million BRITONS tune into “Question Time”?
MeEP Nick Griffin (the Smoothie) puts it like this: “People wanted to see me and hear me talking about things like the Postal Strike” when he accused the Beeb of “twisting” the Programme format. “It was not a genuine Question Time” he opines “It was a lynch mob.”
And the Storm and the Fury among the 8.1 million were not long in registering their views to the Beeb and the Daily Mail.
24.10.09. Rachel (aged 19 yrs) from West London. “It is about time the British people had their say and Griffin seems to be the only one who is saying it!!! No one cares what we [and it is our country afterall] think or need…”
Or Oliver of Epson Downs 24.10.09. “The BNP has been lied about, denied a platform, attacked relentlessly by all the media and then maliciously attacked in a disgusting ambush by the BBC who turned their discussion of daily issues programme into an all out attack on one panel member.” [Guess Which One] “I’ve read what the party REALLY stands for on their website and they get my vote without any hesitation.”
24.10.09 “Let’s stick up for true Britain” writes Tina Bristol. “Some of Nick Griffin’s statements are only what other people are really thinking.”
ON YA, Tina! This is the Right Stuff. This is the mettle of England. Post the Oct 22 broadcast of Question Time, this is why the BNP has 3,000 new members as acknowledged by the TWATs in The Daily Mail.
But listen to the TWATs as they bestir themselves to put an acceptable (to The City i.e. their Jew Masters) spin on this unacceptable factoid of 3,000 new members for the BNP as a direct result of the “Question Time” broadcast on Oct 22.
The Labour Home Secretary, David Blunkett (now there’s a TWAT name if ever there was one): “The BBC played into Griffin’s hands by managing to create a victim out of a perpetrator. Their toally unwarranted blanket coverage (letting Griffin speak uncensored) on news broadcasts before and after “Question Time” was blatant self promotion.”
Perpetrator!? Of What?! The Islamofascization of Britain? Faggot parades? Hate Law and censorship tyranny? Come on David Twat Blunkett, just what has the BNP perpetrated?
And former Shadow Home Secretary David Davis takes aim at Dimbleby (the Patsy Twat)and failitator of the Beeb “Question Time” panel. “Dimbleby”, he states “is old enough and wise enough to have been able to present a properly impartial expose of Mr Griffin’s many inadequacies without having to resort to such crude stage management.” And he defines ‘properly impartial expose’ as “the point of democractic discussion is to dissect the weaknesses and stupidities of extremists.” Really. One would have thought that the point of democratic discussion was – well, democratic discussion.
But no. That is an anti-Semitic opinion of hate that must be immediately self-corrected.
This, David Twat Dimbleby of the Beeb signally failed to do when his stage managed ‘expose’ backfired. And We certainly can’t have that.
And there is worse in the dregs of this sorry affair. It has now been revealed to the Global Community that the Beeb had no intention of holding a panel discussion on ‘the postal strike’ or any such topical issue. They intended to ‘out’ Nick Griffin as a (boo-hiss) anti-Semite, a homophobe, a racist, and a caked on crud at the bottom of the barrel of public acceptability with an specialy picked and tooled up audience of questioners – as The Daily Mail has reported.
According to Beeb propaganda the audience for “Question Time” is representative of the show’s town or city. The Oct 22 “Question Time” was broadcast from London. And a representative audience from “ethnically cleansed London” was specially picked for that episode to out Nick Griffin. The young Metrosexual, Multicultural audience tell us the story. They say they were “cherry picked” for this episode.
As usual the Jews tell the best story. Joel Weiner aged 17 was in that studio audience and he was the most ‘out there’ on the Beeb set up of Nick Griffin. Young Joel, certainly didn’t wait for opportunity to knock. He applied to be on the show the previous year. He believes that many members of his family were gassed by the Nazis at Auschwitz.
Of course, Joel’s role was to grill Mr Griffin on The Holocaust. Here is Joel: “I wanted to show him for what he was. I think he struggled to answer the question. The atmosphere in the studio was very tense, but there was a real commaraderie. Everyone was together against Nick Griffin apart from a small group of supporters.”
One thing I will say for young Joel, he certainly has his finger on the button.
A young multicult Metrosexual from Elephant & Castle reported that he/she/it was “shocked” by the “venom” of Nick Griffin’s “homophobic comments”. So he/she/it said: “I just put up my hand and they came to me for my comment. There’s no way they could have been aware of my sexuality or known who I was (am). It was all completely random.”
Sure Ms / Mr / Mit Pritchard. Sure.
“…the utter failure of liberal secular humanist atheist Darwinist (whether nationalist or cosmopolitan) to give the white race any hope of a future.”
Exactly.
SecularhumanistatheistDarwinists who have been corresponding with the SWB blogroll on the Alex Linder thread – please read Cambria Will Not Yield’s latest essay:
“Against the World” CWNY, Sat November 7, 09 http://cambriawillnotyield.blogspot.com.
“But the white Christian remnant will survive, because Europeans, real Europeans united to Him, will always — come plague, famine, death, barbarian hordes and hell itself — protect Europe with a will and a love that passeth the understanding of the barbarian, the liberal, the conservative, the neo-pagan. It all has to do with the blood of our ancestors and the blood of the Lamb.”
Y Gwyr yn erbyn y byd. The Truth against the world.
“Narrator, I don’t know why some of you are unable to grasp the logic that if Christians once built a thriving civilization, and now our civilization is crumbling…”
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Christianity, for the most part, looks to be derived from Roman political pragmatism and Greek philosophy with a semitic core centered around monotheism.
It is a international stew of universalistic social politics.
Civilizations are more than buildings and paintings. White civilization exists when and wherever White people are. It is that which is endemic to us. So our civilization has been around for many thousands of years. The overwhelming majority of our ancestors and the history of our civilization was not Christian. Christianity didn’t reach its full sway in Europe till around the 14th century and by the 17th century was being shrugged off. The rise and fall of Christianity in The West would make but a small paragraph in our long history.
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“Secondly, neither I nor anyone else who writes here necessarily believes “that Whites who adopt non-Whites are doing more for the White race than those who have no offspring.” I think you’re referring to the end of the Linder post where there is a link to a church in which some members adopt non-white children. We think this is dead wrong and unbiblical, but our point is that it’s easy to see how Christians are the ones who are doing it, because they love children.”
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It would be more accurate to say they’re doing it because they hate their own people. It is hate, not love, which motivates them.
But the problem of numbers is not that of ours, but theirs. Western nations are tragically over populated. America, ideally, should hold around 50 to 80 million people, instead of the nearly 340 million currently here. The same it true of Europe which is wall to wall with people at over 700 million. 180 to 200 million would be about right for Europe.
The decreasing fertility rates in The West was more likely a natural and healthy evolutionary instinct to bring our numbers back to a more reasonable level post-industrialism. Others have merely used that as an excuse to flood our nations with savages.
Our problem is the presence of non-Whites in The West. It is their numbers, not ours, that is the problem. If our numbers suddenly increase I doubt it will mean the numbers of non-Whites will decrease. Will we really consider it some kind of victory if in 80 years there are 500 million Whites in America vs. 400 million non-Whites?
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“I want to make it very clear that our primary objective as Kinists is to glorify God, not to save the white race at all costs. In fact, we are very open about our belief that if the white race persistently denies Christ, it deserves to perish and be erased from memory.”
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You may get your wish.
But I would point out that it is the White race which made the god great, not the other way around. Ironically CWNY illustrates this point (unintentionally) in many of his writings. The bible itself lacks any real beauty or poetry and instead reads like the rather cold and mechanical guide book of a greedy and petty people on how to plunder nations. It is only when it is filtered through the cultural, moral and aesthetic proclivities of Europeans that it gained any beauty or poignancy.
Yahweh himself was a rather minor deity of an insignificant rag-tag people in the deserts of the middle-east til the White Man took him in, clothed him in royal garb, placed a crown upon his head and gave him a kingdom to rule. Jesus himself would have remained a forgotten regional rebel had it not been for the lamentable global reach of the Roman Empire.
It is we who made the God and the Savior, not the other way around.
And even now the collective star of Jesus and Yahweh has faded as the White man has looked past them. They are increasingly relegated to being no more than plastic statues on the walls of some third world ghetto. In that, they have made a full circle.
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“But we worship God, not our race, and we say with Job, “Though He slay me [or my race], yet will I trust in Him.”
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Nothing oxymoronic about that…
It is ironic that you bring up Job as that entire story presents a worldview that is strictly materialistic. Jobs’ rewards for enduring God’s torments are worldly pleasures. Salvation or the afterlife never enter into the discussions.
The whole point of that story is that what you have here and now is all that you’ll ever have. History, culture and even kinship mean nothing in Job. That is its moral. It, along with Esther, and the story of Joseph enslaving Egypt are the most hebrew of the hebrew texts. And in them you get a glimpse of what the hebrew God looked like before he was remade and refashioned by European man.
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“…[O]ur primary objective as Kinists is to glorify God, not to save the white race at all costs. -admin, November 6th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
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Egoism Is Axiomatic, Absolutely Un-Avoidable
(Apollonian, 8 Nov 09)
Above quote is epitome of typical dis-honesty and hypocrisy for SWB: for obvious, necessary, obligatory moral imperative is to serve one’s self-interest–which is only thing which can be done for human, defined as creature of will. Thus we serve our interests, including racial, consistent w. honesty, and that means knowing and fearing God. “Glorifying God”?–we’d better, if we know what’s good for us.
CONCLUSION: And everything we do regarding God we do as it serves our interests in accord w. our nature as creatures of will–who cannot not work to serve such obligatory self-interest, once again. Thus egoism is simply AXIOMATIC, by nature of human and humanity, and only thus do we observe wisdom of serving God, serving God then mere means to serving our own interests, e.g., to achieve heavenly reward and avoiding punishment, etc. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
“It is we who made the God and the Saviour, not the other way around.”
Narrator, in a context such as this, ‘god’ and ‘saviour’ would be the more appropriate spelling – for indeed gods who are elected or proclaimed by an imperial Senate (such as Caligula’s horse) or imposed by martial law are no gods and no saviours.
I used to think that all the supremely Christian moments were in times past. In my mind’s eye, I saw great scenes such as King St Louis riding at the head of a column of French knights who espied down the road a humble priest with his deacons and Crucifer taking Viaticum to one of the dying of the parish and how the King did dismount together with his knights and did off crown, the helmuts and plumes, kneeling by the side of the road while the Crucifix and the Corpus Christi were taken past them.
Or I would see the first snow of autumn falling upon the last harvest as the peasants even the children worked in haste. And yet when the bells filled the air, peeling the Angelus; I would see them stop and pray the Angelic salutation of the Blessed Mother of Jesus.
We now longer have these scenes before our eyes. What we do have is the inner Europe and its truth.
And we have the holy office of prayer (the Ordo) for the Calendar of the Universal Church in both Latin and English interlinear. This is the prayer that ordered the days of Christian Europe to the holy faith. All of those supremely Christian scenes for nearly two millenia were generated by that faith and that prayer which went up from the abbeys, the cloisters, the parish churches, the cathedrals and the responses from every hearth, every workbench, every field within sound of the bells peeling the hours of world and time.
The Ordo contains the appointed readings of the daily Collect, the prayer of the Church (chanted), the appointed readings from the Sacred Text, the commemoration of the lives of the saints, the homilies of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church, the hymns and responses. It is the vast work of the Holy Spirit with which the life of Christian Europe was once infused: even the hallowed places where the Kings writ did not run: the holy wells, the highways, the byeways, the forest sancturaries. All were in reach of the holy chant even of the wayfaring pilgrim.
This was the prayer that continually ascended from the West with the offerring of the clean oblation, the holy sacrifice of the eucharist.
This is the fitting response to the Crucified God man and Savior who declares: “All power is given unto me in heaven and on earth. Data est mihi omnes potestas in caelo et in terra.”
November 8, 09 is the Octave Day of All Saints on the Universal Calendar of the West.
The homily is from St Cyprian, bishop of Carthage and martyr for the holy faith under Emperor Valerian 258 A.D. http://www.breviary.net.
St Cyprian’s lesson for All Saints is from his Treatise on Mortality in which he elaborates upon Our Lord’s metaphor of the Kingdom of God as a great tree rooted in the earth and filling all the earth as it grows up into heaven. It is a beautiful ‘Kinist’ homily.
“We reckon Paradise to be our home; already we begin to have the Patriarchs for our kinsmen…There are a great many of those we love waiting for us there, father and mother and brothers and children there in the great company that awaits us, they who are sure now never to die any more, but not yet sure of us. O, when we come to see them and to embrace them, what gladness will it be both for us and them!”
R. Right and dear in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
This is the flame of the Evangelium lit in the heart of Europe – a single race, the white race emerging in its nations from the fount of baptism and the holy fire of Chrismation. It will never be extinguished. The flame of the Sacred Heart has enkindled within the hearts of a race that became new creation in Christ; nothing will extinguish it, Narrator. Now it has burned down to the embers, even to the ashes.
“From the ashes a fire shall be woken
A light from the shadows shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that was broken
The crownless again shall be King.”
J.R.R. Tolkien, Bard of England. “The Coucil of Elrond”, The Fellowship of the Ring.
You do go on, don’t you, Lynda? Though I thought it was a bit unfair for your utterances to be characterized as “Scientologist voodoo”. I would’ve said, mumbo-jumbo, but that’s quibbling. At any rate, you definitely serve to de-elevate the tone of this blog. Sometimes I have trouble believing the proprietor and most of the commenters here are Protestants of the Reformed faith. Back when I was in that camp, there’s no way I would’ve tolerated the kind of Catholic bilge (which is 1000x more out of touch with reality than most of the Prot’s) that you churn out here by the tonne to go unchallenged. But, that’s just me.
One thing I do appreciate about our Kinist friends is their accurate and unabashed willingness to “name the Jew”, and call out the urbane sophisticates like Jared Taylor who refuse to do so. Don’t get me wrong, Taylor’s a brilliant writer, but that is a real shortcoming of his and AR’s.
Well said, Narrator, well said!
Thanks for your mention of Bishop Williamson. Early this year when he was under attack by the Jews there was some concern that he would bend the knee to the powers that be. So far he has not. And now, take a look at his latest weekly news bulletin where he discusses an article by Kevin McDonald and explicitly mentions the culture war against “White interests” and “White identity.” He is still a neophyte on this topic, but just the fact that he has the courage to use such phrases at a time when he continues to be under world-wide assault is very heartening.
http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28762
I seriously doubt Chopper Dan that it would be possible to de-elevate the tone of Spirit Water Blood more than your comments about landing the ‘nonexistant’ Jesus leaving on a jet plane for Miami or The Narrator’s remark that “White civilization exists when and wherever White people are”. Like when/where exactly. A ‘Christian/Zionist’ prayer rally? Las Vegas? Dresden W.W. II? a Bilderburger conference? Definitely high points of White civilization.
The attitude of reverance with which I have heard Protestant congregations sing “The Old Rugged Cross” directly parallels my example of King St Louis.
Since when do Protestants not recognize bishops and martyrs of the early Church or their treatises based upon the Bible? Since when do they not call Mary the Mother of our Lord: “Blessed.”
You should have spent more time in the Protestant Camp, Chopper Dan.
Dear John,
I am following the order of punishment against Bishop Williamson (a.k.a. The Dinoscopus)by the Regensburg court. He has until Nov 9 to respond to his fine of 12,000 euro for the offense of (cover your ears boys and girls) ‘denying’ the holocaust. I think he may have let off some gas chamber skepticism but he certainly did not deny that many Jewish people died during the war in the concentration camps. Nor did he deny that others also died in the camps – namely Christians.
Antipope Benedict is in a forked stick of his own cutting with the Dinoscopus. Ditto for Achbp Fellay – the gas chamber remark of Bishop Williamson should serve him right for playing footsie with the antipope under the table.
What’s happened to him anyway, have they put him in a burka and slapped a vow of silence on him?
Narrator, your posts reek with intellectual dishonesty and bad history. Like this statement:
“Christianity didn’t reach its full sway in Europe till around the 14th century and by the 17th century was being shrugged off.”
You are here arbitrarily alluding the conversion of last European nation (Lithuania) to Christianity, and claiming that 17th-century Europeans were already “shrugging off Christianity.”
Even most secular historians would call that poppycock.
“Western nations are tragically over populated. America, ideally, should hold around 50 to 80 million people, instead of the nearly 340 million currently here.”
We can clearly see your affinity to misanthropic deep-ecologists who hate the Bible for having taught European people to “fill the earth”.
“The bible itself lacks any real beauty or poetry and instead reads like the rather cold and mechanical guide book of a greedy and petty people on how to plunder nations.”
You have a moronic sense of aesthetics, or else this is merely your manifestly biased anti-Bible prejudice speaking. Many non-, and even anti-Christians have acknowledged how impressive the Bible is in many regards:
http://www.classicapologetics.com/special/skepfor.htm
“It is ironic that you bring up Job as that entire story presents a worldview that is strictly materialistic. Jobs’ rewards for enduring God’s torments are worldly pleasures. Salvation or the afterlife never enter into the discussions.”
You are a spiritual illiterate. Even Oswald Spengler in the “Decline of the West” referred to the Book of Job as the most impressive work of art that the “Magian culture” has produced, and opined that its deepness is just too much for shallow people to comprehend.
“But I would point out that it is the White race which made the god great, not the other way around. Ironically CWNY illustrates this point (unintentionally) in many of his writings.”
Since you referred to CWNY, this is how sees people like you:
“The neo-pagan hates white people in the same way that Hugh Hefner hates women: Hefner loves women as biological entities, but he hates femininity. In fact, Hefner denies that there is a spiritual, feminine component in a woman’s makeup just as he denies a spiritual, masculine component in men. Likewise the neo-pagan; he professes to love the white race, but he hates the spiritual essence of the white man, that which makes the white man distinct and unique. The neo-pagan would have the Christ-bearing race abandon Christ and simply look into the mirror above the computer or in the DNA lab when they want to worship. What a pathetic, soulless fate for the people who walked with God.”
http://cambriawillnotyield.blogspot.com/2009/06/against-jackals.html
Petr is correct. I can’t take anyone seriously who denies that the book of Job is one of history’s supreme poetic and literary achievements, regardless of whether its divine inspiration is accepted. The word “incomparable” is tossed around a lot, but in this case it applies. I fail to see how anyone proposes to devise a philosophical alternative to Christianity who denies such an obvious truth. Let me put it this way: If Nietzsche hoped that aesthetics would replace God’s Word as an objective standard, some of the commenters here are demonstrating that this exchange is a raw deal.
This business about America being overpopulated is worth exploring. Do neo-pagans really believe this? I know many, many familes who have rather modest incomes but are raising 5+ children (Christians, of course, picking up the slack for atheists in saving the white race). They get by just fine but are not able to indulge in the latest electronics or fashion. They live in rural areas where there is room to move and breathe. I grant that cities are overpopulated, but in the countryside there are resources to spare. Here again we see the problem of Darwinists thinking that their “science” has explained something meaningful when it has done no such thing.
That’s an excellent quote from CWNY.
“I seriously doubt Chopper Dan that it would be possible to de-elevate the tone of Spirit Water Blood more than your comments about landing the ‘nonexistant’ Jesus leaving on a jet plane for Miami.”
Well, this is a good sign- I thought you were so credulous you’d believe anything. And you continue to misconstrue my remarks, even after I clarify them. One begins to wonder if it’s intentional. So, let me set you straight for the umpteenth time. While the current whereabouts of a resurrected Jesus in a “physical” body that nevertheless passes through solid barriers like a shade is also interesting, my specific question was in reference to the resurrected saints ONLY. I asked if they went to Miami. And it’s funny, because IIRC, you told me they ascended to Heeben, just like Jesus. However, according to other modern authorities (might’ve been Tim Harris), they just re-assimilated into society and eventually died again, so I don’t really know who to believe. The Bible doesn’t say either, and the story is only recorded in Matt., though it’s so sensational, you might expect it to be referenced in at least one other place in the entire NT. But, no. Sort of like how Paul never references any of Jesus’ miracles or quotes any of his teachings. It’s almost enough to make one suspect something Fishbein’s going on, but nah, that’d just be crazy.
“Since when do Protestants not recognize bishops and martyrs of the early Church or their treatises based upon the Bible? Since when do they not call Mary the Mother of our Lord: “Blessed.””
I don’t believe I ever said any such thing. Most, however, do not venerate or place anything remotely approaching the emphasis on Mary as do Catholics, as I’m sure you’re perfectly aware.
“You should have spent more time in the Protestant Camp, Chopper Dan.”
I think you never let a lack of information stop you from forming an opinion, Lynda, and I also think that, coming from the background I did, I maybe know just a little bit more about it than you.
Chopper Dan, you are clueless as to what I would hold to be credible (or not).
Therefore, I will tell you straight. I do not find you, the Chopper Dan, to be credible at all. If you were to apply your agnosticim and skepticism beyond the Biblical and Church and archeological record (the “Early Church Fraudsters” Oct 29, 09, Alex Linder Thread) to the historical record of almost two millenia of European history, then you would indeed blot out the name of the Saviour of men: the Lord Jesus Christ (Yeshu to you – which I am sure is the point of the entire exercise) but then, you would also succeed in blotting out most of the historical record of almost two millenia.
By your criteria, “in the scope of history it [the Bible] had almost zero acceptance”. Oct 20. So if the Bible, its archeological record, the ecclesial record, the enduring testament of the Church, almost two millenia of Christain European civilization has zero acceptance – then what would you, the Gnat Strainer Perfecto, accept?
Practically speaking this reductio ad absurdem places the burden of proof upon you, not “the total deadenders hopped up on Jesus Juice and determined to believe what you [we] want no matter what”. Nov 3, 09.
I do not misconstrue your remarks, clarified or otherwise. For the eyes that have not already glazed over – here is the reference to your question that supposedly is about “the resurrected saints ONLY”.
See the Alex Linder Thread
Oct 22, 2009. “After all we’re talking about the incarnate Son of God performing numerous signs and wonders, getting entangled in Roman legal system, condemned, crucified, raising the dead, including himself, earthquakes and saints coming out of the graves, wandering around Jerusalem and then…who knows (boarded a plane to Miami?) and ascending to the heavens”…
In your misguided attempts to demostrate that the Christian faith is “an unfalsifiable system of pseudo faith” (Oct 29) the above mumbo jumbo is about as decisive as your clincher which veers off onto the torturous path of the “Moses /Ethiopian woman question” of Oct 30, 09.
I find your unfalsifiable system of pseudo skeptism to be selective at best, hasbara at worst.
And yes, I do go on.
…or The Narrator’s remark that “White civilization exists when and wherever White people are”. Like when/where exactly.
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Like, when/where-ever White people are….for better or worse. Even the worst of Whites are better than the best of any other race (including non-Whites such as St Cyprian whom you casually mentioned with affection above). That’s why all the African, Asian and hispanic Christians are fleeing their own Christian communities and demanding to be let into the Godless heathen nations of Europe and her colonies.
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Even most secular historians would call that poppycock.
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Compelling rebuttal.
Never-the-less (and all of your mysterious secular historians to the contrary) the crusades in eastern Europe completed Christendom’s military/political conquest of Europe and the enlightenment began the end of it’s short universal rule there. Beyond that though, to suggest Europe was once Christian through out is contradictory to New Testament theology. “True believers” were always described as an endlessly persecuted minority (remnant) at war with the world and who would live in perpetual poverty, ever at the mercy of “heathen” friends, neighbors and family who were always out to throw them to the lions.
Far from the family councilor some have tried to make him out to be, Jesus explicitly said that he came to turn families against one another (Matt. 10: 34-36).
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We can clearly see your affinity to misanthropic deep-ecologists who hate the Bible for having taught European people to “fill the earth”.
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Whatever the phrase “filling the earth” actually means is debatable, obviously. But I believe your getting at Genesis 1:28. God said that specifically to Adam and Eve (unless you’re of the Arnold Murray school of theology).
God told little brown skinned semites to “fill the earth”.
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Many non-, and even anti-Christians have acknowledged how impressive the Bible is in many regards:
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“In many regards” being the key qualifier there. Yes Petr, “in many regards” it’s impressive. And “in many regards” Bill Clinton was a good President too. “In many regards” Madonna is talented. “In many regards” NBA players are smart….
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Even Oswald Spengler in the “Decline of the West” referred to the Book of Job as the most impressive work of art that the “Magian culture” has produced, and opined that its deepness is just too much for shallow people to comprehend.
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Well if old Oswald said it, who am I to argue, right? And according to some people the “paintings” of Jackson Pollack are too deep for shallow people to understand and appreciate as well.
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Since you referred to CWNY, this is how sees people like you:
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CWNY has also compared Scandinavians to Zulus and lauded the attributes of jewish characters. He should spend less time worrying about White Nationalist neo-Pagans (all of what, 8 of them? Maybe?) and more time trying to figure out where his true loyalties lie.
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Petr is correct. I can’t take anyone seriously who denies that the book of Job is one of history’s supreme poetic and literary achievements,
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Correction Admin, it is one of semitic history’s supreme poetic and literary achievements, which isn’t saying a lot. And I’d be willing to bet that of all the people who have lauded it less than 1% of them have actually read it through. As I said, whatever beauty and poetry the European Man finds there is projected upon it by European Man. But again it is odd that you find it so wonderful as the book’s cynicism and materialistic worldview would make Nietzsche blush.
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This business about America being overpopulated is worth exploring. Do neo-pagans really believe this?
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Who knows? Find one and ask him if your curious.
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They live in rural areas where there is room to move and breathe. I grant that cities are overpopulated, but in the countryside there are resources to spare.
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That’s a very utilitarian approach I suppose, but I’m not talking about the ability to gather acorns for the winter. I’m talking about quality of life. More people = diminished quality of life.
A city, by definition, is crowded. At least I’ve not heard of any cities where everybody owns a hundred acres of land within the town limits.
If it was only a matter or resources, well, you can grow all the food you need on a few acres of land. But a few acres isn’t a lot. You can own a few acres and still be surrounded by dozens of other houses.
But that really wasn’t my question. What I asked is, would kinists consider it to be some sort of victory if in 80 years there were 500 million Whites in America and 400 million non-Whites?
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“A human Jesus may or may not have existed, but we are as sure as we
can be of anything, that a virgin-born God, named Jesus, such as we
must believe in or be eternally lost, is an impossibility–except to
credulity. But credulity is no evidence at all, even when it is
dignified by the name of “faith”….[Paul]has been accepted as not only the
greatest apostle of Christianity, but in a sense also the author of
its theology. It is generally admitted that the epistles bearing the
name of Paul are among the oldest apostolical writings. They are older
than the gospels. This is very important information. When Paul was
preaching, the four gospels had not yet been written. From the
epistles of Paul, of which there are about thirteen in the Bible–making
the New Testament largely the work of this one apostle–we learn that
there were in different parts of Asia, a number of Christian churches
already established. Not only Paul, then, but also the Christian
church was in existence before the gospels were composed. It would be
natural to infer that it was not the gospels which created the church,
but the church which produced the gospels. Do not lose sight of the
fact that when Paul was preaching to the Christians there was no
written biography of Jesus in existence. There was a church without
a book….The Pagans, in their gladitorial games, sacrificed the lives of
slaves: Christianity made a holocaust of the noblest intellects of
Europe.
Christianity Is Hegelian Anti-Thesis To Judaism/Pharisaism, New Testament Is Literature/Aesthetic
(Apollonian, 10 Nov 09)
“Chopper”: comrade, u gotta get a grip–see Christianity in fullest historical context, New Testament (NT) strictly, first of all, as LITERATURE. Thus Christianity is mere AESTHETICALIST presentation/dramatization of philosophy in general.
Christianity thus is anti-thesis to Judaism/Pharisaism, a monstrosity which had emerged fm preceding Mosaic tradition which Christ heroically and definitively corrected.
In other words, consider Christianity is an aestheticalist version/presentation of same philosophy as given in general by those magnificent Greeks, Christianity then a PARALLEL approach as strict rationalist.
So it doesn’t matter if Christ ever actually existed–what matters is what he has to say as character/protagonist for his literary message regarding that question posed by Pontius Pilate, “what is truth?” (Gosp. JOHN 18:38). Again, Christianity must be appreciated as aesthetic, NT as literature.
Thus greatest overall theologian for purest theory and philosophy is JOHN of Gosp. JOHN; St. Paul is merely most practical theologian. And relevant Christian essence is treatment/understanding of TRUTH, as again, in Gosp. JOHN.
Thus Christ is simply most heroic defender and teacher of truth, its manner and “way,” affirming OBJECTIVE reality of Aristotle, this objectivity necessary criterion of truth–all this against Jew lies and conspiracy founded in such sheer, putrid subjectivism–which so ironically, Jews nowadays try to present as being rational counter-thesis to Christianity which they assert is mystic, “superstitious,” etc.
CONCLUSION: For such is the most relevant theologic/philosophic/cultural anti-theses: Christian truth vs. Jew lies and conspiracy, Christ the heroic upholder/defender thereto, who so definitively defied Pharisaic persecutors. See further Apollonian expo given in above entries. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
Just for the record, Rand Paul’s name is Randal Paul, his wife started calling him Rand, shortened from Randy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD-R_OeP6tU
“Even the worst of Whites are better than the best of any other race (including non-Whites such as St Cyprian whom you casually mentioned with affection above).”
Barbarous and ignorant statement. For one, it mirrors sociopathic Talmudic ideology that even the worst of “ours” is better than best of “theirs”. And historically such an extreme claim simply isn’t true – some White peoples (say, Lithuanians) were packs of illiterate savages while some non-Whites already had highly developed cultures.
To put it bluntly, Northern Europe amounted to very little until it was introduced to Christianity and its blessings. Greek and Roman pagans felt more in common with civilized Middle Eastern peoples than with northerners whom they called “Scythians.” Julian the Apostate himself considered even Western subject-peoples of Rome (not to speak anything of Germanic barbarians) to be un-intellectual by their very nature:
“For lawgivers have succeeded in adding but little by their discipline to the natural characters and aptitudes of men. Accordingly the Scythians would not receive Anacharsis 28 among them when he |349 was inspired by a religious frenzy, and with very few exceptions you will not find that any men of the Western nations 29 have any great inclination for philosophy or geometry or studies of that sort, although the Roman Empire has now so long been paramount. But those who are unusually talented delight only in debate and the art of rhetoric, and do not adopt any other study; so strong, it seems, is the force of nature.
29. 1 He means the Gauls and Iberians, since the Germans at that time were distinguished only in warfare.”
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=395891&postcount=16
And who are you to say that Cyprian was not “White”? He certainly was a Caucasoid, living in highly cultured North African territory. Btw, did you know that the very word “Europa” comes from the name of Semitic Phoenician princess whom Zeus was said to have fallen in love with?
http://phoenicia.org/europa.html
Anti-racists ARE indeed partly right when they say that “White race” is largely (although by no mean solely) a “cultural construct” – only we would rather say spiritual instead of cultural. You cannot uphold White race, “the West”, by mere materialism.
Apollonian, the taxidermist just called. Your one-trick pony ran out into traffic and caused some fatalities. I had it stuffed, and now I use it for a bench in the garden. Where should I send the bill?
Seriously, I think your last comment (it doesn’t matter whether truth is true) deserves special recognition as the stupidest comment ever posted here, and that’s saying something, considering the source.
“Chopper Dan, you are clueless as to what I would hold to be credible (or not). Therefore, I will tell you straight. I do not find you, the Chopper Dan, to be credible at all.”
Au contraire, ma soeur. After reading quite a few of your posts (and wincing all the while), I believe I have a well-informed grasp on your mind-boggling credulity. You do not find me credible at all, because I don’t buy the brand of bologna you’re hawking. If I had been a 12th century Catholic who reported having visions of the Virgin flying around the sky in a giant, aerodynamic papaya, dropping canned ham and gold coins that miraculously landed only in orphan’s and widows’ pockets, accompanied by some “Scientologist voodoo” prophecy, you’d swallow it hook, line and sinker.
“If you were to apply your agnosticim and skepticism beyond the Biblical and Church and archeological record (the “Early Church Fraudsters” Oct 29, 09, Alex Linder Thread) to the historical record of almost two millenia of European history, then you would indeed blot out the name of the Saviour of men: the Lord Jesus Christ (Yeshu to you – which I am sure is the point of the entire exercise) but then, you would also succeed in blotting out most of the historical record of almost two millenia.”
Poppycock. Jesus didn’t exist, but no one’s denying the facts of the Christian era. The West was largely Christian for a long while. Christians, lived, died and did things in between. Christianity was and still is a reality to some extent, even if its founder wasn’t. That’s as much sense as I could make out of your statement. If you meant something else, you’ll have to clarify.
“By your criteria, “in the scope of history it [the Bible] had almost zero acceptance”. Oct 20. So if the Bible, its archeological record, the ecclesial record, the enduring testament of the Church, almost two millenia of Christain European civilization has zero acceptance – then what would you, the Gnat Strainer Perfecto, accept?”
First, I don’t recognize the above quote as mine. Regardless, are you saying that mistakes don’t get made, then set in stone, even for a long time? It’s been 60-some years since the end of WWII and Holocaust-mania is now practically a religion, an “undeniable, unquestionable fact” of “history”. How much longer do you think that horseshit will be around? Second, suggesting a skeptic like me is merely going out of his way to strain at gnats is just being disingenous, at best. What would I accept? How about anything remotely approaching honesty and solid evidence substantiating the orthodox Christian version of its origin and spread through Europe? Of which, there’s almost zero.
“Practically speaking this reductio ad absurdem places the burden of proof upon you, not “the total deadenders hopped up on Jesus Juice and determined to believe what you [we] want no matter what”. Nov 3, 09.”
Wrong again. I’m not advancing a reductio ad anything, and the burden of proof lies entirely, squarely on your shoulders. I’m not at all you don’t want it, because who would? You want to believe in things PROVEN to be contrary to reality, and that’s a hard row to hoe.
“I do not misconstrue your remarks, clarified or otherwise. For the eyes that have not already glazed over – here is the reference to your question that supposedly is about “the resurrected saints ONLY”.
See the Alex Linder Thread
Oct 22, 2009. “After all we’re talking about the incarnate Son of God performing numerous signs and wonders, getting entangled in Roman legal system, condemned, crucified, raising the dead, including himself, earthquakes and saints coming out of the graves, wandering around Jerusalem and then…who knows (boarded a plane to Miami?) and ascending to the heavens”…”
I know what I said, I’m not going to bother going back to cut and paste it, because it doesn’t even matter. Even if I did include Jesus and ask if he went to Miami, so what? Fine, have it your way. So, are you right, and they ascended or did they go back to their homes, party hearty, then croak again later? I can’t seem to get any consensus on this. And where IS Jesus? Don’t tell me “Heaven, at the right hand of the Father”. I want to know where in physical reality his physical body is, be it outer space or another dimension or whatever.
“In your misguided attempts to demostrate that the Christian faith is “an unfalsifiable system of pseudo faith” (Oct 29) the above mumbo jumbo is about as decisive as your clincher which veers off onto the torturous path of the “Moses /Ethiopian woman question” of Oct 30, 09.”
Again, I believe you’re attributing words to me that I didn’t say. I did call Christianity unfalsifiable, which it is, but I think it was admin who said I had a “pseudo-faith”. Though, I could be remembering it wrong. I can’t begin to fathom why you would even bring up my comment about Kinists having a good explanation for the Moses/Ethiopian woman issue.
I don’t know what hasbara is, but going with the assumption that it’s like hummus.
I’m a little disappointed, Admin, that you are still reading his comments.
I stopped reading when I couldn’t figure out if he was texting his comments, or if he really is unable to put together one sentence using proper grammar and coherence.
http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/091109_diversity.htm
One another note, clearly, the reason why Buchanan becomes increasingly irrelevant,is that he actually BELIEVES that the ‘melting-pot’ analogy actually existed.
He mentions Irish-catholics siding with the Mexican mestizos…. and doesn’t see how that clearly is a religious cult, and not true Christianity. The first 150 years of this nation, we were an English, Anglo, Protestant (and highly calvinist) unified people. Even as a Celt with extremely high-church tendencies, I know this…. and it was for such a people as these literate, intelligent, racially exclusionary, and calvinist Christians, that the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote ‘for US and for OUR Posterity.”
Buchanan ( if this post is truly his thought on the subject) hasn’t got a clue.
Confed, it’s a character flaw, but I tend to approve outrageous comments. Only a small trickle of his comments get through, but he keeps typing away, with sparks flying from his keyboard. I just don’t understand how anyone can write the same thing over and over again. “Rationality… objectivity… blah blah blah… Spengler… Aristotle…”
Chopper Dan,
Please refer to the Alex Linder thread and to your epistle of Oct 29 wherein you assert that Christianity is an “unfalsifiable system of pseudo faith.” This is the basis for my statements.
Your lack of historical facts and evidence base on the subjects you are ranting about is particularly noteworthy.
I think you know very well what hasbara is.
For those who have not read the magisterial Judaism Discovered by Michael Hoffman. Please purchase the book and study it. Assist others to study it. He goes into great detail into strategies used by Judaics to blot out, blaspheme the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and ridicule the Christian faith. wwww.revisionisthistory.org.
For SWB readers who are still getting to grips with key concepts, Incog Man has put up a good potted version of hasbara on http://incogman.wordpress.com
“From those who work to confuse and silence us:
‘Our people will not say: ‘Hello! I am from the Hasbara Dept of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and I want to tell you the following…’ Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis . They will speak as net surfers and as citizens [as impartial inquirers perhaps?] and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the Foreign Ministry developed’.” – from the Israeli Jew HASBARA Manual. They should also have said “neither will we say we are Jews …because this was given to the Jewish college students all over the West i.e. through Hillel and Chabad.”
The MO of HASBARA is to blot out the name of the Saviour of men, to discredit Christianity and Christians, to stuff up message boards with useless debates, to hijack discussions, engage in provocation of hate speech etc.
If it smells like garlic, lemon, olive oil and chick peas, spreads on pitta bread and tastes tood with tabouli and gives you wind – as far as I’m concerned – its hummus.
Barbarous and ignorant statement. For one, it mirrors sociopathic Talmudic ideology that even the worst of “ours” is better than best of “theirs”. And historically such an extreme claim simply isn’t true – some White peoples (say, Lithuanians) were packs of illiterate savages while some non-Whites already had highly developed cultures.
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Yes I’ve heard those afrocentric claims before.
As for “highly developed culture”, you do know what culture is right? America, for example, is technologically advanced yet has always suffered the accusation that it has no culture (let alone a “highly developed” one). But all people, generally, have culture. And most have a highly developed one. You see, a highly developed culture is simply one whose ceremonies, customs and rituals are socially -universally- intrinsic and accepted. Blacks in Harlem have a “highly developed culture” and are generally literate on top of that. Want to live there?
Didn’t think so.
Most of the developed regions of the ancient world in the near-east owed much of such status to the Greeks and Romans who ruled over them and gifted them whatever advancements they had. But it is well to remember that Rome was able to conquer Carthage, Dacia, Palestine (including “mighty” Israel), Egypt, Asia minor, Iberia, Greece, Assyria, Babylon (modern day Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia) and north Africa.
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they struggled in Gaul, failed to take all of Britain and were sent packing from Germania.
And Petr, you need to pause before you write. That way you won’t end up singing the praises of the civilized folks who crucified your savior, tortured his disciples and tossed his followers to lions for the amusement of their literate citizens.
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And who are you to say that Cyprian was not “White”? He certainly was a Caucasoid, living in highly cultured North African territory.
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Yeah, well, the guy who just went on the warpath at Fort Hood was a caucasoid living in a “highly cultured territory” as well.
But he was not White. When I speak of White I mean people of indigenous European descent.
And again, all available evidence points to the fact that the worst of Whites are better than the best of non-Whites.
But I think I get a better idea of who I’m talking to, in that you put White in quotes above.
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Anti-racists ARE indeed partly right when they say that “White race” is largely (although by no mean solely) a “cultural construct” – only we would rather say spiritual instead of cultural. You cannot uphold White race, “the West”, by mere materialism.
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Again, you put White race in quotes.
The White race has survived for thousands of years and will survive for thousands more.
Their religion is irrelevant as a White couple will give birth to a White baby, not a Christian baby.
But as I said earlier, whether or not theism begets higher birthrates is probably impossible to determine as atheists are too numerically insignificant to make the comparison.
The White race is flesh and blood. Religions are fads that come and go and can be adopted by any people.
All religion is abstract, thus the reality that for many Protestants, Catholics aren’t Christians. And not doubt for many Catholics, Protestants are Christians. And probably 99.9% of both Catholic and Protestants don’t consider kinists to be Christians.
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LOL. This is the end product of literalist religion- descent into hyper paranoia and madness. Way to not answer my questions. I’ll just assume you didn’t because you can’t. No one can. Therefore, you transparently chose to go the ad hominem route and fling about more ignorant and completely irresponsible, not to mention dishonorable, accusations about me being a Jew. It’s getting real old, Lynda.
I don’t know if sheenies actually engage in that sort of thing, but I wouldn’t waste my time, especially not on a rather small, obscure (no offense, admin)site like this when I’ve already got the entire national media and Hollywood, not to mention that Christians are doing a fine job of killing off the religion all on their own. It is reason and science, which you hate so passionately, that are are driving so many others away from church and The Church (whichever represents “real” Christianity *head scratch*).
Science can be and frequently is abused or twisted to fit a particular agenda, so I’m not suggesting anyone “worship” it, as you’re probably about to accuse me, and it can’t on its own answer ultimate questions about Why, which lay in the realm of the philosophical, but it can, has and continues to lay waste to fraudulent claims religion makes about history and the physical workings of nature. It is the natural enemy of religion, but not spirituality, which isn’t the same thing. Anyway, it’s not going to get any better from your perspective, unless you can find some way to halt the forward march of science.
Chopper Dan,
Science presupposes that there are definable, measurable truths in the natural world which we can discover and harness for our benefit. The christian gospel is all about the historical truth that Jesus Christ died and was resurrected, to save all who believe. Christians accept this because it really did happen. If it did not happen the way the gospels describe it, our enemies would have long ago presented proof to the contrary. The jews have tried, atheists have tried, representatives of other religions have tried. But the fact remains, His tomb is empty.
I repeat, this is an objective, historical truth. Christians have taken the idea of authoritative, absolute truth in the religious realm and extended it to the natural world in the form of scientific enquiry. Christians have always embraced and encouraged true science. And science, at least in the west, has always presupposed the main christian premise – that there is such a thing as truth. True science is the hand-maiden of true religion; and it cannot be otherwise, no matter how much you may wish it. ‘The heavens declare the glory of God, and the earth His handiwork’.
Come back to the true faith, my brother!
“To this day I (Paul) have had the help that comes from God, and so I stand here testifying to both small and great, saying nothing but what the PROPHETS AND MOSES SAID WOULD COME TO PASS: That the Christ must suffer and that, by being THE FIRST TO RISE FROM THE DEAD, He would proclaim light to our people and to the gentiles.
And as he was saying these things in his defense, Festus said with a loud voice, “Paul, you are out of your mind; your great learning is driving you out of your mind.”
But Paul said, “I am not out of my mind most excellent Festus, but I am speaking TRUE AND RATIONAL WORDS. For the King KNOWS ABOUT THESE THINGS, and to him I speak boldly. For I am persuaded that NONE OF THESE THINGS HAS ESCAPED HIS NOTICE, FOR THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN A CORNER. King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know that you believe.”
And Agrippa said to Paul, “In a short time would you persuade me to be a christian?”
And Paul said, “Whether short or long, I would to God that not only you but ALL WHO HEAR ME THIS DAY might become as I am – except for these chains.”
Acts of the Apostles, 26:22-29
O Lord my God, grant that this portion of your holy Word might not return to you void, but may reap a harvest of souls, even among our WN brethren who are reading this. May it be so, Lord. Amen.
“And again, all available evidence points to the fact that the worst of Whites are better than the best of non-Whites.”
Then why is there a great danger that the intelligent and enterprising Chinese will some day take Siberia from hapless Russian drunkards? Your claim is demonstrably false.
Anyways, you’re a clueless fanatic. You like to pose in the name of Enlightenment rationalism, but nearly all those who today consider themselves upholding the heritage of Enlightenment, sneering at Christians, would also consider YOUR worldview to be mere outdated tribalism, and label you personally as ignorant redneck bigot.
I think you are bassackwards, as usual Chopper Dan. It is the Illuminist gods of reason and science and their forward march into all manner of frankenstein projects which are waking people up to the reality of the Evangelium and sending them in search of the holy faith and the Church.
Your questions have been addressed and answered repeatedly and with evidences on the Alex Linder thread.
The problem is: where is the Church? The forward march of science is taking us into the Brave New World that is clearly on the horizon. Who wants it? You apparently.
“And science, at least in the west, has always presupposed the main christian premise – that there is such a thing as truth. True science is the hand-maiden of true religion; and it cannot be otherwise, no matter how much you may wish it. ‘The heavens declare the glory of God, and the earth His handiwork’.” -Randall Gerard, November 11th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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The Pharisee Mouse-Traps Himself
(Apollonian, 12 Nov 09)
Well said, comrade Randall–which is and has been precisely my pt. all along–the answer to P. Pilate’s question, “What is truth?” (Gosp. JOHN 18:38). Thus Christ merely affirms Aristotle, and then adds some info for ethics. For again: “truth” necessarily requires objectivity for criterion and any meaning.
But u’re wrong when/if u say there’s “objective proof” for Christ and resurrection–this being mere assertion. Christian literature is good enough and sufficient of itself for all true Christians (and rationalists and scientists). But note logic cannot prove Christ DIDN’T exist, or that there is no God–and that’s all we need.
CONCLUSION: And observe how I’ve mouse-trapped SWB “admin” (see above dialogue) who prattles about “one-trick pony”: he cannot see or admit he’s in same proverbial “boat” regarding alternative subjectivism and mysticism. But shhhhhhhhh–he hasn’t figured it out for himself yet, ha ha, ho ho. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
The white nationalists seem to think that whiteness is all the religion we need. But what does whiteness have to say about most of the ethical issues we have to deal with in life? Specifically, what is there in whiteness to constrain my lower nature? Certainly, whiteness affirms the principle of kinship. But if there is no God or transcendent ethics, why should I really care about it? Particularly why should I care about future generations of my kind when taking that position can hurt me today?
As a Christian, my answer is that I should care because, as the Scripture says, “A righteous man leaves an inheritance for his children’s children.” And I should love my nation (race) because God created it for his purposes. But what can an atheist say? If there is no God or future life, it really doesn’t matter. (And that’s exactly what I thought when I was an atheist.)
You white nationalists pride yourselves on your rationalism, but how can you fault the very rational decision of so many other whites who share your materialist/scientific assumptions? If Christ be not raised from the dead, they correctly deduce as did the apostle Paul, that “We should eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.”
True, as one of you pointed out, most whites in the West aren’t professing atheists. But a much much larger share are agnostics, pantheists, and others whose God is more a figure of speech than anything else. They basically think as atheists and act accordingly.
Yes, our considerable technical skills have allowed us to prosper, thus allowing us to eat, drink and make merry. But, as Jesus Christ asked, “What profits a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?” If we had our souls back, neither the Jews nor anyone else could harm us. Can whiteness alone restore them? Can it provide the miracles we need to survive? I don’t think so.
You are right that we kinists are a small minority. Well, so be it. God always preserves a remnant.
Exactly, Luther. If Christ did not rise from the grave, what’s the point in being concerned about the white race? Why not allow people to engage in whatever fetish they desire? If God does not exist, what could be more “rational” than allowing the freedom to do whatever we wish, including interracial sex? Atheists say that our genes, by their own instincts, have a will to survive, but that doesn’t tell me anything about ethics. So they say “good” is that which allows our genes to continue. This is what any animal would say if it could talk. Thus we come full circle on the Darwinist ferris wheel. I think I pointed this out earlier, but we don’t get upset when lions kill zebras. Not even the other zebras lose any sleep over it. So why should I care about Channon Christian, if there is so such thing as sin?
We can go back and forth with these questions until the cows come home, but here is the most pathetic aspect of the atheist white nationalist sideshow: They actually expect to convince a sizable number of whites to join them. What makes anyone think this will happen? Druids were rather popular until the blessed evangel came along, and now no one will ever return to being a Druid except for a few freaks who like to dress in robes and have sex in the woods. This is the reality across the entire landscape, which is why we see our people going through ever more self-indulgent and faddish stages, from modernism to post-modernism to post-post-modernism, but never back to primitivism, which is the state of the white man in his pagan glory, according to our atheist friends.
Thank you, Luther! Amen! One of the best posts I have read.
Now we Kinist need to get mean, Mad Dog Mean!
3/4 Jewish philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein (whose family had converted to Christianity) actually made a profound observation about the condition of most post-Christian Europeans when he was looking at an old picture of Corsican bandits:
“Those faces were TOO HARD to be truly Christian. My own is TOO SOFT to be truly Christian.”
Traditional Christianity knew the Golden Mean or balance between Mercy and Justice, hardness and forgiveness, between Law and Grace (between Old Testament and New Testament, one could say).
Post-Christian apostates lose this sense of balance, slide into extremes and become either oppressing totalitarians or anything-goes decadents. The “liberal Christians” belong to the latter group – they want to enjoy only God’s blessings and mercy while ignoring His curses and holiness.
I believe that true Christians today have the heavy but unavoidable duty to wage spiritual war on two fronts – against anti-Christian pagans (both left- and right-wing ones), and against pseudo-Christian traitors whose sorry conduct is the reason why “the name of God is blasphemed among the heathen”.
There is quite a lot to consider in that very good comment. I would only say that I think the Law itself is quite gracious, and it’s for this reason that Christians have a greater burden of responsibility. As much as atheist white nationalists are in error, I think many of them are closer to the kingdom of heaven than the white “pseudo-Christian traitors” you mention.
Exactly, Luther. If Christ did not rise from the grave, what’s the point in being concerned about the white race? Why not allow people to engage in whatever fetish they desire? If God does not exist, what could be more “rational” than allowing the freedom to do whatever we wish, including interracial sex? Atheists say that our genes, by their own instincts, have a will to survive, but that doesn’t tell me anything about ethics. So they say “good” is that which allows our genes to continue. This is what any animal would say if it could talk. Thus we come full circle on the Darwinist ferris wheel. I think I pointed this out earlier, but we don’t get upset when lions kill zebras. Not even the other zebras lose any sleep over it. So why should I care about Channon Christian, if there is so such thing as sin?
why should you care?
because it’s in the interests of yr own survival, as a member of the White Race, to care!
why do Asiatics put their family & race first?…and believe they are an integral part of a racial whole?…even the Chinese did this before communism and, now, to a large extent, have reverted to it…..isn’t “Confucianism” a racial religion?
by any objective standard, the White Race is “good”…both in achievements & behaviour (except where that behaviour has been corrupted by excessive contact with the kike!)…to preserve our genes is, there-fore, clearly in our best interest and, there-fore, “good”!….to help other “races”….especially the very muddy & kikish ones is NOT in our interests and, there-fore, not “good”
as in: that which is good for the White Race is the ultimate virtue and that which is bad for the White Race is the ultimate evil!
We can go back and forth with these questions until the cows come home, but here is the most pathetic aspect of the atheist white nationalist sideshow: They actually expect to convince a sizable number of whites to join them. What makes anyone think this will happen?
yr mistaken….as any committed reader of some-one like Dr William Pierce would quickly realise!
on the contrary, we do NOT expect to “convince” a majority of white adults….our primary focus is on white children, under the age of, say, sixteen or seventeen….as for white adults…if they are not already WN, or close to it, then, for all practical purposes (unless they possess very rare & valuable genetic traits and/or skills/talents), as far as we’re concerned….they can be “cast into the outer mud darkness” where there shall be “weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth!”
a maximum of 15% white adults would be the best we could, reasonably, expect…white, fertile, females of child-producing age (18-35) may be allowed entrance into a white home-land…but…ONLY so as they can give birth to a minimum of four/five white children….after that, and because of the excessive “jewisation” of most white females…their “services” will no longer be requred and they can leave our domains (or: be forcibly removed!)….to miscegnate to their little, feminist hearts’ content!
Druids were rather popular until the blessed evangel came along, and now no one will ever return to being a Druid except for a few freaks who like to dress in robes and have sex in the woods. This is the reality across the entire landscape, which is why we see our people going through ever more self-indulgent and faddish stages, from modernism to post-modernism to post-post-modernism, but never back to primitivism, which is the state of the white man in his pagan glory, according to our atheist friends
such “fads” are because of the kike….we never had such aggravations before their infestation of our society (in either Medieval Christendom or the earlier pagan days!)….get rid of the kike, you get rid of yr “fads”, “fetishes”, “corruption” and “self-indulgences”!
“GoyFire” …….. “hammering out the kike”……one broad-cast @ a time!
The white nationalists seem to think that whiteness is all the religion we need. But what does whiteness have to say about most of the ethical issues we have to deal with in life? Specifically, what is there in whiteness to constrain my lower nature? Certainly, whiteness affirms the principle of kinship. But if there is no God or transcendent ethics, why should I really care about it? Particularly why should I care about future generations of my kind when taking that position can hurt me today?
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Luther I don’t care what motivates you. That’s your problem.
Do you really need someone to hold your hand all through life, slapping your paws when you do bad and patting you on the head when you do good?
Most people are motivated by the law of consequence. If you rob a store, you loose your freedom and go to jail. If you stick your hand into fire, it burns.
Do you, Luther, really need a transcendent affirmation of ethical origins in order to fear sticking your hand into, say, a pot of boiling water?
I didn’t think so.
This is why there is “White Flight”. It isn’t faith that causes it but an understanding of on the ground reality. Of consequence.
It’s easy to set in a classroom or at a computer and hypothesize about ethical motivations, but in real life your choices, moral and otherwise, generally fall along two lines; the obvious and the convenient. Luck (happenstance) will measure the success in either case.
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…as the Scripture says, “A righteous man leaves an inheritance for his children’s children.”
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Do you not realize you just made my point about the questionable sincerity of past Whites in regards to their faith?
But I do agree with the gist of what you’re saying. Our grandparents were easy tools for the elite’s interests and did indeed neglect to leave us an inheritance.
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But what can an atheist say? If there is no God or future life, it really doesn’t matter.
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Because unless you’re 95 years old it’s not some hypothetical far off future event. I don’t know if you’ve been following the newspapers of late, but a black, Marxist, president is not a hypothetical future event. 30 million Mexicans roaming the streets raping, pillaging and plundering from sea to shinning sea is not a hypothetical future event.
America, RIGHT NOW, is about 52% White and those percentages are dropping rapidly. If you are under 65 years of age then you WILL in YOUR LIFETIME come face to face with what Whites are enduring in South Africa and Zimbabwe.
It’s not a hypothetical future event. It’s not something that only your grandchildren will face. It is upon us right now.
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And I should love my nation (race) because God created it for his purposes.
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That’s what Whites in Rhodesia used to believe as well.
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So why should I care about Channon Christian, if there is so such thing as sin?
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Congratulations admin. That is the most bizarre and nonsensical thing I ever read. (well, top twenty anyway).
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…the most pathetic aspect of the atheist white nationalist sideshow: They actually expect to convince a sizable number of whites to join them.
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Aren’t you arguing with yourself here?
Anyway, I don’t think we have to do any convincing. I’d say half our people are already inclined to agree. And about half is all we’re going to get. The rest have done pledged their allegiance to multiculturalism.
But as far as atheism vs. Christianity goes, it would be far easier to tear down someone’s faith and steer them towards a nationalist viewpoint than it would be to try and convince them that all the biblical verses about “loving your enemy” and being “one in Christ” don’t actually mean what they actually mean.
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I have a lot more time for the white nationalists than I do for the joodeeazied Christians and their antiChrist agenda whether Christian Zionists, W.C.C denomiations promoting the JudeoCommunist causes under the Platform of the Internationale or novus ordo Catholics promoting Noachida under the Nostra Aetate charter of Vatican Council II.
From the top, all mainstream Christianity is being reconfigured to the Talmud.
In Catholicism nowhere is this seen more clearly than in the suppression of the Catholic doctrine of the social kingship of Christ over all nations which is de fide and devotion to the Sacred and Immaculate Hearts.
BTW Noor Al Haqiqa’s blog http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com has just put Henry Ford’s The International Jew online. This should be burned to CD now for the home schools, the parish libraries, the home library. This type of research and comment has been very hard to obtain in the last 50 years (which is why we are in the current deplorable state). When the NET is locked down, this information will again be suppressed so save it now.
I think Narrator and Jimbo are proving my point about how their statements are just like what animals would say, if they could talk. Snakes bite, they say, and you don’t need a Bible to tell you to avoid them. This is quite true, but it has nothing to do with what makes us men. There’s no need to rehash the dangers we face. We’re well aware, and we all agree that our people need to be protected. The question on the table is what defines us after immediate threats have been removed. We Christians are saying that wars will never cease if our unity comes only as a concerted reaction against our enemies.
I really would like to know why I should care about Channon Christian if I have about 50 years left, and afterwards nothing. Why should I even care about my own children, except for their ability to support me when I can no longer support myself? (Notice that this is a pretty good description of multiracial American domestic policy right now.) Some of you men are getting worked up about things that amount to nothing, if there is no God. Your permissive co-religionists are actually more consistent than you. But don’t misunderstand: Your inconsistency is a good thing, because as we’ve said, you’re borrowing from the Christian worldview in order to make sense of what you recognize as good and evil. This shows that you’re closer to us than more consistent atheists.
“But what about Orientals?” Jimbo asks, as Alex asked earlier. They’re not Christians, and they “put their family and race first.” Again, you’re missing the point. Even a bear puts her cubs first. The question is why Asians have any degree of honor at all, and the answer is that their religion of ancestor-worship binds them to it. You men would actually be more consistent as Hindus or Buddhists, if you want to pretend that sin doesn’t exist. Actually, most Christians are unwittingly leaning in the direction of Hinduism right now, which will be covered in the next post.
Christians know that sin does exist, and it has infected every thought and action. You must necessarily turn a blind eye to white evil because, having removed the standard of God’s Word, the longevity of the white race becomes your standard. We worship our Lord; you worship our race. It’s as simple as that. Since whatever whites can do to survive is, by definition, “good” in your minds, you are begging either to be exploited or to become tyrants yourselves, all in the name of “good.”
The comments about William Pierce are just as useless as he was. Of course you expect to convince others. Whether you focus on the youth or not is immaterial. The question is how you ever hope to inspire them. Obviously, we can form alliances on many important issues, but the best you can ever hope to do is convince others of immediate threats. Those threats are real, and you’ll have some degree of success, but your failed ideology will never inspire virtue because you have shut yourself off from eternity and the very God who has saved you and your people countless times. If you ever conquer our enemies, you will become your own worst enemy.
If the white nations of Europe’s Caucasian race which were once the Christopherian race would return to our King and the embrace of His Sacred Heart, no matter how dark the hour or how desparate the situation, they would clearly see:
“there is no difference in the sight of the God of heaven to deliver with a great multitude or with a small company; for the success of war is not in the multitude of the army but in the strength coming from heaven.” II Machabees III 17-18-19 DRV
“I think Narrator and Jimbo are proving my point about how their statements are just like what animals would say, if they could talk.”
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What do you mean, if, they could. In the bible they DO talk!
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“The question on the table is what defines us after immediate threats have been removed.”
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No, the question on the table is the one I asked you, twice. And that is, would you consider it some kind of victory for us if, in 80 years, there were 500 million Whites and 400 million non-Whites in America?
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“I really would like to know why I should care about Channon Christian if I have about 50 years left, and afterwards nothing. Why should I even care about my own children, except for their ability to support me when I can no longer support myself?”
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And as I said above Admin, you have about 10 years before all Whites in America will be facing the same things they are in South Africa and Zimbabwe. The odds of any of us living comfortably to a ripe old age is slim to nil.
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“But don’t misunderstand: Your inconsistency is a good thing, because as we’ve said, you’re borrowing from the Christian worldview…”
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You’re not far off the mark here, Admin. You see Christianity germinated in a place and time that was dominated by Greek philosophy and Roman politics. So in many ways it reflects the ethics and worldview (both good and bad) of Europeans. What makes it particularly harmful is it’s semitic contribution of monotheism which inherently posits a universalistic worldview that re-enforces the perverse notion of a “brotherhood of man”. When you marry that up with the Roman’s political pragmatism (in offering citizenship -equal status- in the kingdom to all it’s conquered people) you have a match made in hell.
In other words Christianity is a deeply diverse, cosmopolitan and confused ideology. Hence your supposed concern about multiculturalism. Heaven, as it is described in the bible, is explicitly multicultural and multiracial.
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“We worship our Lord; you worship our race.”
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No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other.
-Luke 16:13
Like it or not Admin, Christians today are following the teachings of Jesus more closely than they ever have. And those teachings are (and always have been) at odds with the survival of the White race.
When the battle lines are firmly drawn, 100% of the Christians will be on the side of the colored hordes against the White race.
Kinists are trying to straddle the fence. And we all know how that ends…
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“Traditional Christianity knew the Golden Mean or balance between Mercy and Justice, hardness and forgiveness, between Law and Grace (between Old Testament and New Testament, one could say).”
1) the Orthodox have these two arenas as well- ‘economia’ and ‘acribea’ – economia is when a non-Orthodox comes to the Church, and instead of baptizing him all over again, acknowledge that his protestant or roman baptism has the proper ‘form’ and is just missing the ‘pnevma’. Acribea is when ANYONE (whether pagan or christian/protestant) comes to be baptized) is AUTOMATICALLY baptized, as IF the prior baptism (in the protestant’s case) did not EVEN EXIST.
Orthodoxy has veered between these two exemplars, depending on the era.
2) I would not posit the OT as the ‘religion of law’ and the NT as the ‘religion of grace.’ While ‘grace and truth’ came in Christ Jesus, as St. John says, both the OT fathers and the NT fathers were still ‘the Church.’ One of Luther’s faults was his desire to find a ‘pure faith’ in the OT, that he did NOT find in Medieval/Renaissance Rome, when he visited! Law and Gospel are woven THROUGHOUT the entire Bible, from Genesis 3;15, to Rev: 22. But this statement was a good one, otherwise.
As for Narrator and Chopper Dan types, the Orthodox Church wisely notes that, “After the second or third attempt to reason with a heretic, it is best to leave him in his heresy.”
What that means is two-fold:
1) He’s not going to change his mind, and by appealing to his pride in his own [unregenerate] reason, you make him think he’s your equal- he’s not.
2) Piling ‘living coals’ on his head by quoting Scripture verses, doctrines of the faith, etc. only makes his damnation WORSE, not better!
Let the H.S. do HIS Sovereign work, and, IF he’s going to be converted, he’s GOING TO BE CONVERTED. If he’s not, then leave him be. It would be better he enter the judgment as a pagan, rather than as a mildly enlightened pagan, who THINKS he is the mental/moral equal of ‘a sinner saved by grace.’
It’s astounding how Orthodox views of salvation often mirror/link back to the TULIP of the Calvinists…
Two things about Christianity that bother me the most. One is the good vs. evil stuff. It always leads to fanaticism. Lincoln, as Roosevelt, neither Christian, both recognized what useful tools its believers were.
The other thing is the universalism of it. One would think it opposite of the good vs. evil rhetoric, but as we see today, they work hand in hand – to our detriment.
As for needing a religion in order to care about one’s children, admin, with all due respect, that’s crazy! Human nature takes care of that, as it did before Christianity and as it still does for those of us with the common sense to embrace it and to steer clear of voodoo and mysticism.
One thing, at least. Both sides of this discussion have their lone kook.
The Narrator. You still have not convinced me that as an ignoramus of history you are on a par with a zuchini. Or is it that your moon in the seventh house and your Jupiter aligns with Mars?
“When the battle lines are firmly drawn 100% of the Christians will be on the side of the coloured hordes against the White race.”
As a prognostication this comes from what – a tarot card reading? As a shtick, however, its not too bad.
The african and arabic and turkish races have been invading Western Europe for over a millenia. Please familiarize yourself with places like Portiers, Roncavilles (against the Arabs), Languedoc (the Jews of the Midhi) Lepanto (the Turks), Vienna (the Turks), Herzagovina (the Turks again).
Like Alex ‘the Arabs own Hollywood’ Jones – your prognostications are so incredible they are starting to register on my J-wdar.
“One thing, at least. Both sides of this discussion have their lone kook.”
alfred, who’s the kook on the anti-christian side? i’m pretty sure i know the other one you’re referring to, ha.
i have to say, i find myself agreeing much more with what the narrator, linder, chopperdan, et al. are saying than the kinists. they just make a lot more sense to me, but hey what do i know.
“Two things about Christianity that bother me the most. One is the good vs. evil stuff. It always leads to fanaticism…”
Well, with a name like Rosenberg, look who’s talking! I leave it up to a former President of the lone [sic] ‘Jewish state’ to delineate fanaticism: ‘”Jews as individuals are great individuals — talented, ambitious, intelligent, smart. As a people, I would not give them as high a grade. Jews know how to hate.” – Ariel Sharon, Prime Minister of Israel
or how about the ‘holy book’ of Talmudism?
“A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer.” – TALMUD, Choshen Ha’mishpat, 348
Pot calling kettle, come in kettle. At least G. K. Chesterton knew that evil resides in each of us. When asked by the Times of London ‘Who among us is an exemplar of moral evil in this modern, rational age?’ Chesterton’s succinct response put it into biblical, Christian perspective.
Dear Sir,
I am.
Respectfully,
G.K. Chesterton
When you contrast Sharon’s statements above, with this statement below-
“Our Race will take its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king, and every Gentile a slave.”
Rabbi Emmanuel Rabbinovitch, Common Sense, Jan. 12, 1952
I think St. Chrysostom put it [the [sic] “Jewish” question] in to perspective as well, when he wrote:
“The Jew will live under the yoke of slavery without end. God hates the Jews.” – Saint John Chrysostom: Six Homilies Against the Jews
“As for needing a religion in order to care about one’s children, admin, with all due respect, that’s crazy! Human nature takes care of that, as it did before Christianity and as it still does for those of us with the common sense to embrace it and to steer clear of voodoo and mysticism.”
But what the Admin was trying to say is that from a purely materialistic point of view, human nature itself merely the result of chemical reactions that arrived out of chaos and are in themselves inherently meaningless. There is nothing in pure materialism that would designate the natural and healthy instincts of man as “good” or “worthy” things. One could just as easily sink into self-centered hedonism, and there would be no rational way for that lifestyle to be condemned as inherently inferior as another. What use is survival and the passing on of genes when the universe will eventually suffer heat death and the entire human species will eventual fade from all existence anyway? “Drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.” P.S. For the sarcastically challenged among this blog’s readers, I am NOT advocating this extreme form of nihilism, but merely pointing out the mindset of those with this view.
Precisely, Passerby, and no matter how many times someone shows the atheists that they are unable to explain why one idea or action is better than another, or even why life is preferable to death, they will always change the subject, because they have no answers.
They are rather amateurish when it comes to their own ideology. You would have to read someone like Sartre or Camus to get closer to the implications of it. Camus believed suicide to be the fundamental question of philosophy. If the individual is the sole source of meaning, which is exactly what Linder is saying, there is only one masculine response in the face of absurdity and chaos, said Sartre, and that is to commit suicide. This is the ultimate act in crafting one’s own morality, as our village atheists are attempting. The problem, as men like Sartre and Camus saw it, mainly because they were chickens, is that in death they would become prey for the living, and all that they cherished about their lives would be absorbed into the absurdity that is the universe outside their individualistic bubble.
Such are the extremes to which one must go if logic means anything in a world devoid of God. In this light, our atheist nationalist friends are very much like children who think that honking a horn and jerking on a steering wheel is the same thing as driving. If they ever find the car keys, they’re only going to hurt themselves.
They think their desire to save the white race is superior to the desire of other atheists and Darwinists to see it perish, but not a single one of them can explain what makes their plan superior other than their own gut feelings. But those who disagree with them have feelings and ideas of their own, so why should anyone care? If there is no God, nothing makes sense. If there is no God, nothing is worth saving, least of all the white race. No law is worth obeying. Just as it is inconsistent to be a Christian and not cherish the gifts that God has given, including our families and race, it is inconsistent to be an atheist and a nationalist. They sure do get worked up over a big pile of nothing.
At the core, their race-worship is really self-worship, because they can project their own megalomania on a larger body of distant relations, of which they will only ever personally know an infinitesimal part. Unlike God, this abstracted racial entity will never place any demands or requirements upon them or penalize them in any way. They are their own god, and that sure does make the prayer list simple.
ain’t it amazing how modernist/post-modernist “questioning of existence”/nihlism is the ultimate answer (if you don’t believe in the judæo-xtian “God”) and that “the suicide solution” seems to afflict the White Race specifically?
could it be because such self-destructive “philosophy” springs, ineluctably, from the filth of the jewish psyche? …. kikes controlling the media and public discourse in the (je-)West
you cite Camus & Satre….of the former, i cannot comment….but, Sartre was an anti-Nazi, kike-loving, judæo-marxist….as such: you could expect some such self-destructive drivel to spew from his kike-infected mind….you continually criticise Nietzsche….but…as far as i know, no white person ever contemplated suicide after reading Thus Spake Zarathustra (or Kant’s “The Critique of Pure Reason”, for that matter!)….William Gayley Simpson spent ½-a-life-time studying Nietzsche, in the original German, and made claim to having read his entire corpus at least three or four times!….and, yet, “Which Way Western Man?” (which has the first ¼ of its 1100-pages content devoted entirely to Nietzsche) makes nary a reference to the “suicide solution”….no!…..that is an exclusive kike-crafted doctrine aimed specifically at the White Race….like kike-controlled fraticidal wars (WWI, WWII), the HollowHoax, the counter-cultural “filth” revolutions of the 1960s/1970s, the abortion holocaust, feminism, gun control & Turd World “immigration”…they are all forms of genocide against our people!
“The Believer” café scene … a nice “exposition” of the ugly, nihlistic sewer that is the jewish “mind”!
Jimbo, this banter won’t continue for long here unless you and your friends are able to stay on point and stop changing the subject. Are we talking about God or Jews?
If Jews did not exist, you would still have to account for logic, love, beauty, truth, and why we should accept that anyone’s ideas mean anything. Are you really trying to blame Jews for the end result of your philosophy?
Mystic Control-Freak Gets Petulant
(Apollonian, 17 Nov 09)
SWB “admin,” u’re a just mystic who’s against reason/rationality–and remember then, this gets to reason/health vs. psycho-pathology. U evidently want to pretend to that sort of imagined mysticism which entails reason at same time, thus retaining health. Thus we see ur petulance seeping out for ur control-freak inclination pretending now to intimidating “Jimbo.”
What hubris it is for u to complain about my “one-trick pony”–at least I’m honest, which honesty u must suppress as u publish gross lies and slander as by “Wheeler MacPherson.” U’re pathetic and funny at same time as u pompously pontificate, all in the effort to fool urself w. idea u’re “good,” in tune w. “moral order”–right.
CONCLUSION: But if u’re soooooo “good,” question is why u can’t demonstrate this pretended, presumed “good”–it’s just not in realm of reason, is it? So u continue to babble and pontificate endlessly, complaining about others’ “one-trick pony” so fatuously, publishing lies and slander. Eventually people get wise to ur corrupion, sucker, beginning w. ur smug irrationality. Soon enough, the only people who will talk to u are purest scum, like ur buddy “Wheeler” the dealer. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
Jimbo, like many post moderns you find yourself reciting dialogue from the novels of Albert Camus. Yes, I realize you have never read any of his works like The Stranger or The Myth of Sysyphus.
But Camus understood post moderism and the demoralisation of Western man so well that people like you quote him all the time. His novels are essentially about the meaninglessness of existence. (Which is why anyone with half an ounce of psychological health or robustness would never waste their time on his books unless they had to read this stuff for school).
As a tool for self understanding and analyzing our Western society, however, Camus’ work is important. In his fiction he ‘workshops’ the demoralisation of the West. He understood that the ideologies of the Enlightenment leave people in the situation of meaninglessness and paralysis. The only way out is to create one’s own meaning.
The best that can be done is the creation of values (by definition relative). E.g. X values banking as a tool for the ownership of nations. Y values apple pie and motherhood. Somebody else values fighting the Jews who own the banks as a tool for owning nations. Most value slavery as long as they’ve got a house and cable. An angst ridden young man whose girlfriend broke up with him values suicide. None of these values are right or wrong in a moral sense to the modern man – but the values that collectivise and achieve the strongest power base will win the future and engineer the minds of the future generations. The only question is: ‘what values work?’ and ‘for whom?’
(The Values are by definition at war and the strongest will/s decide which values rule at the level of political order). The Marxist process of dialectical materialism describes the way in which the power issues of conflicting values will be decided.
In our post modern reality, the strongest collective which controls banks, media, corporate infrastructure, education, government will weigh in on all sides of every conflict so it can be managed by the change agents according to a predetermined outcome. The conflict of values serves the strongest will.
What you don’t learn from Camus is The Protocols of Zion. Ideologies (the ISMS – Darwinism, Atheism, Liberalism, Conservatism, Agnostism, Racism, Feminism, Faggotism, Marxism, Internationalism a.k.a. Communism, Capitalism / Corporate Statism, Nationalism) were all crafted for the purpose of demoralising the West by attacking the pillars of human identity: faith, race, nation, gender on all fronts.
Jewry is a nation and it is organised as an international nation state. All clear thinking about it begins here.
It has an executive (covert), it has a financial structure that owns Gentile nations, it aspires to own the population in terms of debt and their land in terms of fee simple, it has a legal code, it has an imperium. Individuals who identify as Jews participate in this to varying degrees: for, against, indifferent and assimilated as liberal, secular, materialists. But the JudeoMasonic covert order has utilizes all who hold these ideologies to relentlessly attack the West from within (as a fifth column) and from without through its Masonic Revolution (now culminating in its International / Communist phase) and from around by building the international (Communist) world order power bases.
The throne and altar of all European nations has fallen to the Revolution and the population in the mass been re-tooled for social chaos by means of these ideologies. True International order can only emerge from this chaos. ‘Ordo ab Chao’ – motto of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree.
The most instructuve of Camus’s works is The Plague. It is a matter of basic survival (of the fittest) for the population to fight The Plague. Hence the famous ‘But we must fight The Plague’ (or the Jews or Global Warming or Apathy or whatever), but no one can say why they must fight the Plague. Just as there is no reason why many will choose not to fight the Plague. If there is no basis for moral law; it is irrelevant.
All that matters for the mass is the strongest will (however organized at this time)and whether or not that will (collectively) chooses to fight the plague. For postmodern man: the pillars of human identity are going to be retooled on that basis.
Reading through your kiketalk, it is clear that you have no comprehension of Jews and their imperium. They want this kind of talk on the internet. If people like you or their agents were not out there with the J_wSpew on the message boards they would have to do it themselves. This is because they work according to Double Mind / Double Bind. By deception do war. Their strategy is dialectic. They want a hate law lockdown on all public fora. That is their agenda. Doubt me. Please read the ADL website and inform yourself. Abe will get his tzvitzies in a real tizzy if people like you arn’t falling in with their plans. They will have to go out and start drawing the swastikas on the synagogues if the stupid goyim don’t play the hand they are dealt.
Therefore in the social laboratory, hate talk against the Jews must be out there so that when the next black op is staged, the Je_wMSM can join the dots for the sheeple and talk about how all this ‘hate talk’ (examples will be produced) has instigated a terrible event. A real morality play for the national stage.
If you read The Protocols of Zion, the covert government talks about this in their ‘responsibilities of freedom’ disocurse. Thus dialectically we achieve the Slavery is Freedom stage.
If Jews did not exist, you would still have to account for logic, love, beauty, truth, and why we should accept that anyone’s ideas mean anything. Are you really trying to blame Jews for the end result of your philosophy?
white men have been “philosophising” and “questioning ideas” for millenia…going back to the time of Plato & Socrates….and, maybe even, before that!…it is only the “jewish philosophy” of the last hundred years or so that says we haven’t been able to account for “logic, love, beauty, truth & ‘meaning’ “….so….yeh!…i’m blaming the kikes & the kike-a-likes apropos Sartre, Marcuse, Rorty et al….all scum-bag nigger lovers & kike-kissers!
that IS “on point” & “on topic”…unless i was being a bit too “subtle” for you in my previous post!
“the modern world is a jewish disease!” …….. “sums up” that YT “Believer” clip nicely…perhaps you should watch it a few times….and, then, go away and HAVE A GOOD, HARD, LONG THINK ABOUT IT, eh?!?
Okay, I give up. You don’t understand what I’m saying.
Obviously, Jews have taken the place of sin in your mind. This logically entails that Jews must be exterminated and that whites can do no wrong except when they act like Jews. To say that this is madness is putting it mildly.
Not possible to reason with these sophists on the basis of morality or even non-contradiction. All their reasoning is dialectical. Ha Ha. The Jews invented dialectical reasoning. They call it pil pul.
These Aryan racial supremacists are a whole new take on the Socratic ‘the unexamined life is not worth living.’
This type of idolatry is foreign to the white nations. But the Jews are racial supremacists – they invented this particular code, religion and imperium. It looks like the Aryan racial supremacists are going to learn all about it at the feet of (that probably should be under the feet of) the masters.
I am sure the Jews who are directing this bad movie can doctor the script for the goyim who just want to have a religion of racial supremacy too. Jews are very creative that way. But as the Talmud suffers no rivals or slave flatteries, there will be plenty of low farce as the new plot unfolds. I can hardly wait to see the cartoons in Heeb.
Jimbo – The Cafe Scene to which you refer is from The Believer – a JEWISH film. And it deservedly collected all the awards at Sundance, Co in 2000 or 20001. The young actor Ryan Gosling if he is not in fact Jewish himself (born of a Jewish mother) has got some serious Jewish paternity on the family tree. The fact that he could just walk into a lead role in an industry owned and dominated by the Jews is a point to consider.
He plays a JEWISH neo Nazi skinhead. Thanks to the internet we know that the neoNazi movement is largely financed by the Jews. There is no excuse, however, for not knowing why. Do the clueless goyim out there in tv land paying the kosher tax to eat on the corporate K farm have any idea why the neoNazi movement would be in large part financed by Jews?
This film is another head job on the goyim.
The subject of the film is not the Jews and their crimes and why a neoNazi movement would ostensibly exist to oppose this. The subject is Judenrat – it is a story of a self-hating Jews’s redemption to the JEWISH mind.
For the European Christian this is an important study in Jewish psychology and THEIR understanding of anti-Semitism, holocaust denial etc and how they want this to play to the goyim. If you would actually listen to the cafe speech – it boils down to: the young Daniel David, former illui and now a neo Nazi, hates the Jews and he hates himself as a Jew because he perceives them / himself to be feminine and weak in the face of their unending sufferings AND their will to anti life. This last is really telling – but the film will use this important revelation not as the true insight it is, but as a way to characterize ‘anti-Semitism’ for the goyim. This anti-Semitism is some kind of unreasoning, inscrutable, bind force of hatred which characterises the Jews as ‘anti-life’. Kind of like their version of the mystery of iniquity. The young skinhead is infected with it because of his self hatred, according to the film. Of course, this dis-ease never becomes self knowledge, historical knowledge and purpose.
In real life, a Jew with the insights of young Daniel could become another Benjamin Freedman.
Therefore, the self knowledge of which young Daniel is the bearer is taken smartly in hand by this film. Are the Jews weak? And why do those who may be completely innocent of any personal wrong doing suffer at the hands of the goyim? Why do they suffer at the hands of those whose hands actually turn the wheels of the world in making a sacrifice of ‘our own’ lesser brethern? The Protocols of Zion does explain this last.
The Believer takes quite a risk in posing these very real questions for the American goyim. But it answers in a way that will make the clueless goyim even more clueless. And this was the point of the entire exercise. It is the mental equivalent of diet coke.
of course: “The Believer” came from HymieWood…just like almost every other movie over the last ½-century or so….you need to be independently wealthy (a la Mel Gibson) to produce a movie that hasn’t been corrupted to some degree or t’other by the filthy claws of the kike…but…the point is, that the WN movement has now built up such momentum that the kike is more or less obliged to acknowledge it; hence: such movies as TB and, some-what earlier, “American History X”….another interesting movie is “Felon”, released last year & starring Val Klimer…incredibly, this movie, although, basically, a “jail-house drama”-type effort, is pretty much “white supremicist” from GO! to WHOA!
to say that “the kikes” are controlling & steering the WN/”neo-nazi” movement is, IMHO, patently absurd…if they did so originally, then, they have now pretty much totally lost control of it….WN has assumed a life of its own….it is a rampant, feral tiger just slavering to devour the entire edifice of kikery in either one or several large gulps!
the imprisoning of current, prominent WN figures (like, for instance, Matt Hale & Chester Doles) is proof that the kikes are scared….but….those actions have back-fired on them badly and have only served to inflame WNs to white-hot rage!
“false flags” like OKC will, thanks to the i/net, now no longer work either….@ last count, from my under-standing, more than ½ of the adult US population does not believe the official account of 9/11!, in one form or t’other, and a goodly % of that “½” are convinced that the kikes were wholly & solely responsible for it!
WN contains nothing but despair, disaster & destruction for the jews…it is, basically, “Nature” getting revenge on its deadly enemies!
our time in history has come!
we are, to para-phrase Shakespeare, on the flood-tide of our fortune…this is our hour!….the Age of the Kike is almost over…a new “white power” is arising…it’s victory is assured!….there shall be no “new dawn” for kikes!….the time of the Aryan has come!
HAIL VICTORY!
Narrator: You raise an interesting point. Should whites need divine sanction to do what common sense tells them to do, i.e., realize the threat before them and resist it? That certainly makes sense as a matter of logic, but human nature is not that logical.
What we whites have, along with everyone else, is a problem with sin. And our sin nature often keeps us from doing what is obviously in our best interest. As one of many examples, consider sex. The sexual revolution has been a disaster for our race and civilization. And generally it’s been a disaster for us as individuals.
Nevertheless, each of us as individuals may say: Yes, but I can can get away with debauching myself, why not? Especially, if there is no God and no divine law against it. And that’s the decision vast numbers of our people have made. The consequences have been the destruction of family life, the loss of love and romance, and bitter hatred between the sexes.
In this situation self-disgust flourishes, and it’s not just with sexual degeneracy, but every other type of sinful selfishness. The end result is disgust with life itself–a death wish. Certainly, whites should fight their destruction, but many won’t because death is exactly what they want. As God reveals in the Scripture, “All who hate Me love death.”
So what is the answer for this problem of sin? We Christians offer a Savior who forgives sin and leads us to a higher life. We also as kinists abhor the death wish of liberalism, and the doom it proposes for our people. We will resist. True, Christ taught us to love our enemies, but remember that He also beat His enemies with a whip when the need arose.
“a new ‘white power’ is arising…its victory is assured!…there shall be no ‘new dawn’ for kikes!…the time of the Aryan has come!”
Only Saruman’s script in the movies lends itself to this type of application of rhetoric.
In the Lord of the Rings Saga, the White Wizard was clearly a Golem of Sauron. His own ambitions to forge his own ring of power were always depicted as delusional. The Voice of Saruman clearly reveals the corruption of the reasoning power as a weapon of Sauron.
Aryan nationalist ambitions to create its own Talmud and defeat Jewry using Jewry’s own code of racial supremacism is a deceit of magia worthy of Saruman in exactly the way Tolkien depicted it.
In the Saga, Sauron strengthened Saruman in his ambitions and aided him to build up the Isenguard power as a means to an end. Saruman’s project was never regarded by anyone (except Saruman) as any serious rival to Baradur (which sufferred no rivals) but as a deceit of Sauron and agency to prevent the unification of Rohan and Gondor -ironically, the white nations.
Exactly as ‘Aryan power’ and its rhetoric is being used to today.
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote about immutable spiritual truths. These include truths of dark sentences: real politik, the deceits of magia, the conceits of guile, force and makebelieve, propaganda, mind control, ring forging, power mongering, Babel building. It is all there, virtually a textbook.
In Saruman, the White of Many Colours, we see an instrument, a Golem of Sauron. Like Gandalf, he was an Istari, but he was deceived by the craft of the enemy and his mind was overthrown. In the wisdom of his own conceit, he became an insturment of Sauron and was utilized as such by Sauron and by Gandalf.
In his discourses on the LOTR, as the author, J.R.R. Tolkien characterizes the Allied propaganda of WW II in terms of Saruman’s corruption: “…we are attempting to conquer Sauron with the Ring. And we shall (it seems) succeed. But the penalty is, as you will know, to breed new Saurons and slowly turn Man and Elves into Orcs. Not that in real life things are as clear cut as in a story, and we started out with a great many Orcs on our side.” To Christopher Tolkien (stationed in the Transvaal in the RAF), May 6, 1944. The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien (ed by Humphrey Carpenter & Christopher Tolkien) London: Unwin Paperbacks, p. 78.
As the voice of the Oak (the Bard), speaking through his own character Treebeard, Tolkien describes Saruman and his devices: “He is plotting to become a Power. He has a mind of metal and wheels; and he does not care for growing things, except as far as they serve him for the moment. And now it is clear that he is a black traitor. ..Men he has ruined or has blended the races of Orcs and Men!” The LOTR. The Two Towers, “Treebeard”.
Saruman projects necessarily require the ruin of men and the making of Orcs.
For all the above reasons, it is in the nature of things, in esse, that there will be some serious J_wi$h / ZOG investment in the Aryan nation project as a slave flattery and pretend rival to Jewry. Their Power Dialectic requires it. It is just a matter of time before the evidence is posted on the NET.
postmodernity = SEWER
Hi ummm…are you like…racist and stuff? I don’t want to bother reading your blog until I confirm….like…yeah…
…like…yeah, Jeffra, we are racially aware of the Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid peoples an stuff. And we are ethnically aware of the European culture and heritage.
It doesn’t matter what language you study, everybody has created words for the races broadly identified above and even more words for ethnic distinctions.
The royal flush of race awareness and understanding trumps the race ace of black race hustling every time. And it trumps the three aces of holocaust guilt industry payola every time.
Since it is the Whites who put up with 85% of the 770,000+ violent interracial black on white crimes (censored by the All Jew News, All Jew Views Mainstream Media) , it is the Whites who have this racist stuff in spades.