Of course, the funny thing to us is that McCain thought he could avoid the smear of racism while still being opposed to miscegenation. It’s also strange that in the Colmes interview, he says he does not belong to the League of the South, even though his membership in the League was the whole point of the debates at Dennis Wheeler’s site.

McCain wrote this three years ago: "I never posted anything at a site called ‘Reclaiming the South,’ which anyone with Google can easily discover is in fact operated by a white separatist named Dennis Wheeler. In 1996, I had debated Wheeler by e-mail – arguing strongly against his separatist views…"

But just two weeks ago, he wrote this, forgetting Dennis’s name: "I know that much of what I have written has been mischaracterized and that I’ve been accused of ‘contributing’ to a white separatist site (‘Reclaiming the South’) to which I never contributed anything.
Stogie, correct me if I’m wrong – all evidence of that site having apparently disappeared since its proprietor’s death – wasn’t that guy’s name Todd Wheeler? And wasn’t he from Marietta, Ga.? I hope I haven’t got the wrong name, but basically the guy was disruptively pushing white-separatist arguments in a Southern heritage discussion, was argued against strongly by several of us (including myself and George Kalas) and decided to take his ball and go home.
That’s one thing that burns me up about all this – when I lived in Georgia, I was known as an opponent of the very same doctrine that I’m now accused of advocating. And it seems that much of the evidence that might exculpate me has disappeared, while the same old smears are preserved in perpetuity by endless repetition."

It seems odd that no one is able to find the Wheeler pages at SWB. Instead, they link to a Google cache and these dead links:

http://kelticklankirk.com/dennis-wheeler_mark-of-the-beast.htm
http://www.kelticklankirk.com/dennis_wheeler_great_internet_debates.htm
http://kelticklankirk.com/dennis_wheeler_a_plausible_lie.htm

They want to argue that these were in place before the advent of Christianity. They want to argue that Christianity tended to suppress (rather than protect) the flourishing of this diversity and its many legal institutions under monarchy and consitutional parliment, Appostolic Law and customary law. They want to argue for a unity on on the basis of race or racial moralities, rather than the Spiritual unity worked out on the basis of Church according to historical record of almost two millenia.

The West has been exercised with this debate in the past week. See the excerpt from John de Nugent’s book Honor being promoted on the News From the West blogspot: “Honour the Sacred Pillar of a Folk Community” Sept 22, 2009. http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com.

In this article he translates from Gustave le Bon who finds this idea of honour to express “what used to motivate Western man and woman for tens and thousands of years”.

According to de Nugent “whatever the factors that create an individual’s moral code, the ultimate expression of morality can appropriately be called the sense of honor.”

Not that this type of abstraction will ever reach the white masses, but this is the type of arguement that should be on the radar of those who intend to think seriously about our racial identity and the forces at work to destroy the European race as a race.

Frankly, I find these types of statements worse than the outright aggression of those who would see the European race destroyed – by whatever means. I put them in the same box as the K for Kosher – neonazis like the Jew Frank Collins and the Islamic jihadists like the Jew Adam Perlman.

This type of statment comes under the individual moral code called liberalism. The honor bound up with this code is very different to the honor of a Christian. And for the Christian, it should be of import that the ideology of liberalism subsists under the solemn anathema of the Patriarchate of the West.

We do know in our common sense (if it is truly common) and if we are at all in touch with our heritage of Spirit and faith and kinship, that in the conflicts of the age: “you can’t wield a sword with a limp-wristed, vague faith in the democratic process or in the benevolence of liberals.” CWNY “The Worship of Darkness” Sept 26 2009. http://cambriawillnotyield.blogspot.com.

The awareness of the weakening poison of liberalism extends into ethics and the realm of morals. On these subjects, the Church has not been silent. Liberalism and its ideologies have been under the solemn anathema of the Church since 1864. Re Syllabus Errorum. Apostolic Constitution decreed by Pope Pius IX. Dec 8, 1864. In Errors Concerning ‘Natural’ Ethics the following proposition (no. 56) stands under the anathema of Pope Pius IX, ratified by Pope St Pius X.

56. Moral laws do not stand in need of Divine sanction. Condemned.

In other words, not just any individual’s morality (liberalism) will do.

Christ established a living source of authority in his Church to teach the generations. The Holy Spirit Whom our Lord promised to send in His Name is teaching the churches through an Apostolic Succession and living magisterial authority that is collegial and Petrine – a great work that is built over centuries like a vast coral reef in nature, aliving fortress that creates the waters where vulnerable life may flourish. Yes, I do acknowledge we are in serious ‘F’ word territory here. For those who may wish to explore the common Western and Eastern patristics of this territory – a good place to go is http://catholicpatristics.blogspot.com/2009/08/filioque.html.

But the import of this, dear people, is: we are not in the dark. We are to be wise before the fact. We do not have to wait for the poison of liberalism to rot every social institution and corrupt all mores before we realise. Oh. Liberalism is not a good thing. It sounded so noble and right. But now we see it is the pit end of all hypocritical pits. A society in which every individual’s morality goes is a society in which everything will sell. (Duh) Christians are not to be found fighting this type of conflict.

We came from a Spiritual unity in which our propositions in morality, our common sense, our poetry and culture are flowing together. The Christendom was the revealed manifestation of that Spiritual unity worked out in race and nation and culture. The European Christians built it once on the basis of faith and prayer of the divine office. They can build it again because Christ the King wills a restitution of all things as the culmination of the Church Age or the ‘times of the Gentiles’.

The unity achieved and lived by European nations was Spiritual. It was never a racial or ethical unity. But the Spiritual unity became the unity of the European race in the diversity of its nations. It was a case of seeking first the Kingdom and all other things being added.

Contrast this with the hate-filled, persecuting infidelity of modern liberalism

This just in from Catholic League president Bill Donohue, his public letter to Patrick W. Hayes, Legal Director of Rockford, Illinois urging appropriate action against the Northern Illinois Womens’ (that should be Wymyns’) Center. http://www.catholicleague.org.

The Northern Illinois Womens’ Center is displaying a poster in the window depicing a graphic of Jesus giving the middle finger to the Christians with the caption: “Even Jesus Hates You.”

Now will the City of Rockford take action against this blasephmous deptiction of our Lord, this ‘in your face’ provocation and hate statement, labelled as a hate statement?

Wanna bet?

Only benighted moderns rewriting our history under the influence of Jewish revision and grievances think that the Christians hauled our kinsmen off to the stake for their lack of faith. And the great pagan festivals of England: solstices (Midsommer and Sun Return), the Equinoxes, Imbolc (Candlemass), Belaine, Lugnasadh (St Michael’s) and Samhain (All Hallows) were kept right through Medieval times to the present. The works of William Shakespeare are a virtual compendium of English Faerie, traditions of the Greenwood.

The totally pagan myth of Europa riding the Bull from the Sea (the Bestia Neptunis) is one the ancient cults of Europe. It has never been extinguished (although its sacrificial aspects were suppressed by the Church) – but much of it survives: bull fighting and running in Spain, the white bull traditions of England associated with the Seven Sisters (the Pleiades and the White Cliffs, the Bulls Eye – Aldebran), today the Fifth European Parliament proudly boasts a naked Europa riding the Beast in Brussells.

It’s true that our culture has important pre-Christian elements that are worthy of being saved, but the question is whether Christianity works against small-scale national and cultural formation, and I don’t find that to be the case at all. In fact, if not for the widespread empire-building of the last several hundred years, we would see much more of what occurred during the prior thousands of years. But now there is the tendency to amalgamate everything – nations (properly understood), cultures, peoples, languages, economies, currencies, etc. Christians go along with this ubiquitous impulse and stamp the authority of Scripture on it, and this is where we think the Church has taken a very wrong turn.

Improved transportation and communication make the empire-building easier, no doubt. But if you think about it, technology has been used to overcome two of the safeguards that God has established to prevent amalgamation, geography and language. You can be taught a foreign language, just as you can be granted a visa to cross a border, but what you can’t do is deny that the rules of language or the laws governing borders are insignificant.

You cited a good example in the anabaptists, who make rules that seem peculiar to the rest of the world but actually serve the purpose of erecting important boundaries that all of us should honor. Tim Harris has cited the example of the Rechabites in Jeremiah 35, whose father told them to live in tents and never to drink wine. They obeyed, and God used their faithfulness as an example against Nebuchadnezzar. God’s approbation is important in this case because there are a lot of vows made in Scripture, not all of them legal, as was true of Jephthah’s rash vow in Judges 11. In a very real sense, today’s Amish are like the ancient Rechabites, and though most preachers today would tell them to disobey their fathers, God says differently, because blood is never less important than theological liberties and is always far more important than the abstractions in which white folks tend to lose themselves.

Without these boundaries, an entire group of people, with an important history of their own, would cease to exist. It is that much more important for the white race to exist, and some of us still honor the boundaries our fathers put in place, which are based on the same boundaries that have existed to protect all peoples throughout history. We are routinely told that we are “in sin” for doing this, but the accusation is a form of gnosticism, in that “knowledge” of what is lawful is being raised against duty, specifically duty to our kin, according to the Fifth Commandment.

As for the many distinct, sub-national cultures among European Christians, doesn’t that have to do with the fact that they were largely in place before Christianity came in? (Haven’t linguistic differences traditionally been the primary boundaries between neighboring groups, beyond actual physical barriers?) I’m under the impression that Christianity transformed them and to a considerable (and probably continually growing) degree harmonized the subcultures of Europe, but each regional flavor was fairly stable, at least until the advent of long-distance mass transportation and mass communication. (My Mennonite ancestors were still speaking and writing in German 150 years after they relocated to America, and I just heard Kevin Swanson say in a recent Internet broadcast that even though the Amish make limited, selective use of modern technological innovations, they generally eschew use pneumatic tires on their horse buggies because they want long-distance travel to be physically uncomfortable.

Living in East Asia and seeing the gradual emergence of a Christian culture in some parts of it (there is reason to hope that China will eventually convert overwhelmingly to Christianity, and we should be praying specifically for that), I agree it seems hard to imagine cultures losing their distinguishing cultural genius over time as they Christianize. But achieving a high degree of harmony seems within the realm of the achievable, especially if the Holy Spirit wills it! Humanly speaking, this harmonization would seem to be easier to achieve among some cultures than among others . . .

Doug Wilson is a very logical and reasonable man, yet he too falls into this logical pit. He’s like most white people, in that he has moved to where vast numbers of white people live so that he can hypocritically denounce the “racism” of other whites for whom racial difference is not a theory but a reality. This is essentially what Yankees have always done, and the mythology of their saintliness is now so many hundreds of years old that they can only go through the mindless motions when reciting the reasons for why Southerners had to be killed. They remind me of the buffoonish Iowan mayor in The Music Man who reflexively recites the Gettysburg Address at every town event. Not a single person pays him any attention, but he thinks he sounds very profound.

Still, I will compliment Wilson for reproving Michael Horton’s statement that “God has only one ‘nation,’ and that is the church.”

http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&CategoryID=1&BlogID=6941

Wilson says no, God has many nations, but only one church. It takes a trinitarian to think this way, and it’s amazing that so many Christians have trouble with it. I grow weary of Horton’s Babelism.