Defrauding Not Our Sons
July 2, 2009 
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Listen to the recording of this horrified woman, and imagine if it were your wife and children. Do me a favor and play it for your pastor. Then look him straight in the eye and tell him that if he isn’t doing everything he can to keep our people safe, he can go penetrate himself with a blunt object. The gospel of Jesus Christ does not put the lives of white women and children at risk, but the 14th Amendment certainly does.
And so does Obamination, who “says the biblical command to ‘love thy neighbor as thyself’ is as pertinent now as ever. The president said Friday that an entire community suffers when some members cannot pay their mortgages or find jobs. He called on Americans to work together to build a better future for everyone, including immigrants.” If the word “neighbor” means everyone in the world then the word is meaningless. And that’s the whole point of using it in this way.
Better jobs for everyone except white firemen, that is. So much for wise Latinas. We can now report that Sonia Sotomayor is even crazier than Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
“Enjoy it while you can, white folks. Because when Obama is done packing the court with Jews, homos, Hispanics and other minorities, you won’t see any more decisions like this one. In multiracial America, wanting the best and brightest, most competent firefighters is HATE.”
Any focus on white interests, even through politics, is being made illegal. But surprise, these whites who do not hide their opinions are being allowed to keep their jobs. Many thanks to the Almighty State for this gracious gift bestowed upon us piss-ants.
Brother Pat swings back to the Love side of the meter. California, with one out of every eight persons in the population, and with a GDP larger than Canada’s, is about to hit the wall. Whites are in the minority statewide, and in Los Angeles, “the most diverse human habitation in history,” trust is lower than anywhere else, according to Harvard professor Robert Putnam. Diversity is clearly our greatest weakness. And here’s the bad part: “Demographically, California is where America will be in 2040.”
A few days later, in another article, Buchanan notes that Hitler’s Darwinism led him to believe that “it would have been better for the world if the Muslims had won the eighth century battle of Tours, which stopped the Arabs’ advance into France. Had the Christians lost, [Hitler] reasoned, Germanic people would have acquired a more warlike creed and, because of their natural superiority, would have become the leaders of an Islamic empire.”
When the story of the HMS Bounty is told, the hero is invariably made out to be Fletcher Christian, and the abusive psychopath, William Bligh. But this has everything turned around, and the real story is more relevant than ever, given the white suicidal tendencies of our time and open borders. The crew lived for five months in Tahiti waiting for a thousand plants to mature. They had themselves tattooed like the natives, had a lot of sex with the natives, and Christian even “married” one of them. Leaving the island was too much to bear for the besotted crew, and so they mutinied. When Bligh pleaded with Christian to be reasonable, Christian exclaimed, “I am in hell, I am in hell!” Miraculously, Bligh and his loyalists survived. Without charts or compass, their small boat found England after a month and a half at sea. It’s one of the most amazing nautical stories ever to be told (the greatest of which is Shackleton’s).
The last connection to civilization was severed when the mutineers burned their boat in order to settle on Pitcairn Island with the kidnapped Tahitian women to “a life of racial and cultural miscegenation.” In less than a decade, they had almost all murdered each other, although Christian might have killed himself after realizing that the strange flesh for which he lusted destroyed his own soul.
In other words the utopia they imagined in their darkened hearts predictably turned into a living hell rather than the heaven they had envisioned. A sort of small scale, predictable, turn of events, the likes of which are now playing out on a grander scale throughout many Western nations…
And whereas around half of the men turned their back on their civilization and embraced the very same destructive behaviors we see about us today, it is important to remember that the other half stayed true and loyal. Cast adrift in an unfriendly ocean they demonstrated remarkable skill and courage (dealing with murderous natives and starvation) in their long journey back to Western civilization, back to home.
Lord, lead us back to safe harbor.
At least 40% of the under-twenty population of London is non-indigenous.
The Occidental Quarterly‘s “metapolitical project aims, thus, at putting in motion a movement—in thought, to start—that will lead to the eventual founding of a white ethnostate and, with it, a restoration of the white man’s rightful place in the world—and I don’t mean this in any Hollywood Nazi sense, but rather in terms of a people’s national right to retain the ownership and control of their own lands.”
Why you should join the C of CC. Some of the best folks we know, all in one room.
Science Daily discovers the obvious: Most white people favor members of their own race.
Well, there’s science and then there’s “science.” Such as when primates, who were not human at all, are called “the first Europeans” and cannibals.
A 26-year-old mother in Winnipeg, Canada, is trying to regain custody of her children after her daughter came to school with a swastika painted in magic marker on her wrist. Manitoba Family Services is seeking permanent custody of the children alleging that the political views of their parents may cause them emotional harm. “This case is a scandal,” says Paul Fromm, Director of the Canadian Association for Free Expression. “I call this state kidnapping of the children of dissidents. Absent serious physical abuse, parents have the right to have and raise their children. The young mother is penniless and can no longer afford legal counsel. Her supporters provided her with bus fare to return to Winnipeg to fight for custody of her children.”
Preventive incarceration of indeterminate duration, for what Phillip K. Dick called pre-crime. Science fiction meets real life.
More saltire racism. An employee of the National Library of Scotland decorated his desk with three flags and a lion rampart, and was warned that such enthusiasm is “racist” because it could “intimidate non-Scottish colleagues.” But of course, not a single white person, Scottish or not, would ever be offended by such displays. The only people who would ever be offended are non-whites who come to Scotland and make war against the idea that Scotland is for the Scottish. If anyone is “racist,” it is these people. But somehow, they get all the rights and the blood-born get none. This would be the equivalent of me going to Japan and deciding that the rising sun emblem makes me feel less of a person. I would deserve to be sent to the looney bin.
Tea is racist. Blacks will never join a protest that endangers the mandated taxes that allow the proliferation of their race, at the expense of ours.
Can I interest you in a racist tissue container? Collector’s item!
The word “niggardly” is racist. Never use “niggardly” and “black hole” in the same sentence.
Blackface is racist too, but hermaphrodite/pederast Michael Jackson donned permanent whiteface and was considered merely “troubled.”
Little Black Sambots are racist. “Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact hatchbacks, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They’re forced to acknowledge that they can’t read. One has a gold tooth.”
Hate crime charges are for white people. Don’t believe it? Here’s proof from the latest hearing on the new Hate Crime Act. “[Attorney General] Holder made it clear that if a white Christian male, including a serviceman or police officer, was the victim of a violent hate crime by any minority he would have to find redress from traditional law. He could not avail himself of the triple penalties and rapid government/justice system response given a protected minority.” Whites are already in the minority in many places, such as the state of California, but will never be a “protected” minority, because protecting whites is not the purpose of the law. Our forefathers rebelled against governments that no longer served their interests.
And sure enough, Holder is using the James von Brunn shooting as the reason to expedite this legislation—as though murder is not already illegal.
Talk radio is racist, of course, but is also “terrorism.”
The SPLC is called a “terrific organization” by the fag on “fair and balanced” Fox News.
Porky Beirich expounds on musical theory.
“Lord of the Dance is an exhibition of perfection of harmony and choreography. It also consists of white people performing exquisite and complex moves in absolute perfect precision.” Black people hate this.
Roll your mouse over this image to see how ads are Photoshopped to promote multiracialism and miscegenation. This is why mulattoes are in high demand, and the more indiscernible the heritage the better.
Crazy Uncle Tom Fleming continues his mad quest for respectability by issuing a new conservative creed. As you can see, he does everything he can to pretend that race is inconsequential. But if there is one thing we’ve learned in modern history, it is that it is impossible to build a structure of subsidiarity without a foundation of race and ethnicity. You can talk to your heart’s content about the importance of tradition, community, and the sacred, and we will agree with you. But if you believe these things can be secured without exclusive bonds of blood, we will refer you to a more succinct creed.
The soul of man resides in the blood.
I think the event that indicated Christian Europe was no more took place in the 1960s when Pope John XXIII stated he had “no feeling of hatred, only loving charity and forgiveness” for the Congolese barbarians who tortured, mutilated, and killed nineteen missionary priests, and then raped, tortured, and killed the missionary nuns. If a people stand by and let such a thing happen to their own kind, can they be called Christian? Can they even be called human? No, they can’t. They must be called what they have become: soulless robots who have banished the Man of Sorrows and replaced Him with the sterile ratiocinations of their own minds. Pope John didn’t see actual white people being tortured and murdered, he saw in the white victims mere abstractions whose deaths gave him a chance for a P.R. coup: “I can appear saintly if I forgive their enemies.” And he didn’t see, in his mind’s eye, hideous beasts straight from hell, when he thought about the Congolese natives who murdered the whites. He saw adoring noble savages who would fall down and worship him because of his great beneficence.
“A European is not different from a pagan because the pagan has bloody sacrifices and the European uses his mind; the European differs from the pagan because he believes that God’s spirit dwells in the blood and not in nature.”
Billy Graham is a lying, despicable coward.
Jews have a rule that they number their kin according to who was born of a Jewish mother. Britain now considers this to be racial, not religious, criteria for Jewish school membership, and hence illegal.
“The Babylonian Talmud in tractate Sanhedrin specifies that anyone who disparages a Talmudist is a heretic (“apikorus“)… Criticism of a Talmudist (“Bizuy Talmedei Chachomim“) is a terrible crime in Orthodox Judaism, punishable by destruction of the heretic’s reputation, imprisonment, flogging, ritual curses, book-burning and in some cases, death.”
According to the satanic Talmud, “the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day,” and subhuman until it is born (Yevamot 69b). Compare to Jeremiah 1:5: “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee…”
Whites are expected to honor “precedent” in constitutional law, on abortion for example, but the Talmud instructs Jews to make their own interests a higher priority than law.
As in this case, for example, where a Jew pederast is avoiding punishment.
Israel is not so much a country as an extortion scam.
The government of Israel has now committed an act of piracy.
There are only three countries in the world more violent than Israel, and two of those are being occupied by the American Empire on behalf of Israel. I just can’t understand why people hate Jews.
Jews oppose recognition of the Ukrainian holocaust. It’s easy to see why.
So let me get this straight. The Nazis were close to sending a radar-resistant jet into production, many decades before Americans learned how, but their grand attempt to exterminate the Jews of Europe was so inept and inefficient that they tried to asphyxiate their victims with diesel fumes? It’s very doubtful that it would have taken until 1969 to reach the moon if Germany had won the war, but Germans apparently lost their marbles when it came to genocide and tried to spend as much money as possible on the endeavor. Of course, I’m not accusing Jews of lying. They follow the law of Moses and would never think of lying about such things.
After lying about his great uncle liberating Buchenwald and saying that Judaism has “extraordinary moral traditions” (like raping toddlers), Obama declares that there will be “no patience” for those who exercise free speech rights to deny the Holohoax.
And now, just as we expected, he’s going to flush 73 million white dollars down the toilet called Zimbabwe. “There was a time when Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of Africa. And it continues to have enormous potential,” Obama said. “It has gone through a very dark and difficult period politically.” By “dark and difficult,” he means that all white people have been murdered or run off. This is not a holocaust, of course, because whites are not Jews. And which country ever run by Negroes has not been forever mired in a “dark and difficult period”? There’s a name for creatures who live on the richest soil in the world and don’t grow a thing for themselves. I believe we call them animals.
A monkey urinates on the president of Zambia. But enough about Eddie Murphy’s personal life.
Here’s a note from an Engrishman who has had all he can take of diversity and baggy pants:
This is one of the most amazing and appalling Youtube videos we’ve ever seen, and it is sure to be studied by zoologists for years. The Louisiana legislature decided to reenact a scene from The Birth of a Nation and invited Jiggy McBoo, in his new pair of manpants, to inspire them with Negro artistry. When it’s over, instead of demanding to know who let the diversity in, the white speaker of the house makes a lame joke to break the awkward tension. (Inspirational lyrics in the sidebar.)
“If 25% of South African black males admit to being rapists, what’s the real number like?” And when will Christians be honest and admit that apartheid was simply the civilized keeping the savages at bay?
The least favorite holiday for black people.
How much money do you think it would take to pay all the black girls in the world not to get pregnant? This is the kind of foolishness that only white do-gooders could dream up.
Black women now have larger waists than men. This has helped lead to another black achievement, making Mississippi and Alabama the top two states in the country.
Morgan Freeman, who plays the Magical Negro and Numinous Negro in his acting roles (scoring numerous mentions on Wikipedia), and who hounded a Mississippi school until it finally hosted a miscegenated prom, has allegedly been copulating for 10 years with his step-granddaughter, whom he raised in his home from the time she was a toddler. “What a sick, sick pervert. It just goes to show what kind of people push interracial dating and marriage—perverts and Judeo-Christians.”
Richard Nixon said this the day after abortion was made legal: “There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white, or a rape.” Leaving aside the question of abortion itself, this quote is fascinating. A president, within our lifetime, knew that abortion “breaks the family,” but since he believed it was permissible to kill mulattoes, it means that he did not consider an interracial “family” to be a family at all, any more than a rapist is the husband of his victim. Within our lifetimes, what the Church now considers “a positive good” to be “celebrated” (in the words of John Piper) was horrific. That which is pure and noble has not changed, but Christians certainly have.
See what passes for sermon material in “churches” these days. One could borrow from Tom Wolfe’s “radical chic” (think of posters of Che Guevara) and call this “nigger chic.”
Negroes call for martial law to stem the tide of violence from Negroes. Can anything less than a police state bring order to any place inhabited by a large number of blacks?
Watch as every spearchucker on this bus refuses to intervene in a racial assault, and you’ll see everything you need to know about a groid’s respect for the rule of law. Here’s another example among hundreds. Now watch how white men react. So explain to me again why Rosa Parks should be remembered. Would there have been intervention on Flight 93 on 9/11 if the passengers had all been buh-boolies?
We don’t truck with feminists, but if suffrage is needed to offset the electoral strength of savages, as Rebecca Latimer Felton, the first female senator, believed, then a racial feminism is something we could support. Felton also believed that prohibition was necessary to prevent black-on-white crime. These are examples where principle is less important than survival. But for the very same reason, Felton has been purged from the history books. Her story proves that present-day feminism is just a front for multiracialism. This pioneer on behalf of women must be flushed down the memory hole because of her old-fashioned views on race. Which is more important, unequal pay or extinction?
Indeed, the need to control Negro rapists played a major role in her most controversial advocacy: lynching as a preventative to antisocial African actions. In one of her articles she flatly stated that so long as Negro crime continued, lynching must continue. In a speech before the State Agricultural Society in 1897, she explained that women left alone in isolated farm houses faced a grave danger from roving Negro rapists and murderers. The men of Georgia, she explained, needed to protect their wives and daughters. Since religion and law could not put a stop to this behavior, then the White men must lynch these “ravening beasts a thousand times a week if necessary” (Talmadge, p. 114; also Atlanta Journal August 12, 1897).
This widely reported speech stirred the Holy North to righteous rage at the bestial South. Mrs. Felton began to engage in a newspaper war with the Boston Transcript in her usual direct and forceful language. Her biographer summarized her response as follows:
Bluntly she charged the Northern newspapers with encouraging those crimes that made lynching necessary. Their maudlin sympathy for the Southern Negro had made him restless and unruly. If Boston wanted mixed marriages, that was its business but it might as well understand that in the South a Negro who laid hands on a white woman was going to die. Of course, she had rather see the brute hanged legally, but if he confessed to a mob, then he stood condemned by civilization, with the possible exception of Boston. (Talmadge, p. 114)
One baptist preacher denounced Felton’s love for her people as “humanity verging toward the animal and the fiend,” and she fired back at the “slick-haired, slick-tongued Pecksniffian blatherskite.”
When a negro in Georgia murdered a white farmer and then raped his wife next to his corpse, Felton urged the posse to shoot him dead rather than capture him, to spare the raped woman the indignity of testifying against him in court. He was captured, but the next day a mob pulled him from the jail, Leo Frank-style, emasculated him, and burned him alive. “The North exploded. Most Southern papers did not comment, nor did Mrs. Felton.”
She did not care one whit for the accolades of her enemies. She never compromised with the enemies of her people.
And here we are, in the year 2009.
Federal Bureau of Investigation statistics show that about 100 white women are raped by black men each day. The number of Black women raped by white men in an entire year can be counted on the fingers and toes of one person. “Wildings” are simply accepted as justifiable expressions of black “rage.” Instead of being condemned, understanding is urged on behalf of the poor, misunderstood “youths” who behave just as their ancestors did a century or more ago.
Dear-bought and clear, a thousand year,
Our fathers’ title runs.
Make we likewise their sacrifice,
Defrauding not our sons.
Canon employees are not allowed to sit down, but there must be worse jobs.
Tattooed and pierced freaks who are beginning to feel like conformists have a new way to express themselves—as bagelheads. There could be a business opportunity here for Jews.
Don’t get that college degree.
Some Christians like to elevate their projects to the level of essential doctrine and practice for everyone else. I’m not referring to the things that really are essential, but rather, to things like keeping families seated together throughout a church service, having as many children as physically possible like Michelle Duggar, never allowing girls to leave home unless they’re married, and never allowing them to be paid unless they’re serving their own fathers, etc. These might or might not be good ideas, depending on the circumstances, but white people are naturally inclined to climb aboard “movements,” and Jews like Howard and Doug Phillips are more than happy to take their money from them.
As you may know, Edgar Steele, the author of Defensive Racism, belongs to Howard’s Constitution Party and tried to run for governor of Idaho, but Howard dispatched the black chairman of the party to kick Steele out. People have called in to Steele’s Nickle Rant show recently to tell of how they approached Chuck Baldwin to ask why this happened. Baldwin feigns ignorance in every case, even though he is fully informed, because he is just as slippery as the other men in charge. Baldwin never misses an opportunity to change the subject when the white race is on the line.
Voddie Baucham is another black mascot who is making the rounds among the supporters of these enterprises. Here he defends himself against charges that he associates with Kinists. That’s pretty funny, we have to admit.
Doug Phillips asks, “Have you taken a look at homeschool families lately? We are some of the most ethnically diverse, so-called racially diverse families, I’ve seen… You can find families that are ‘white’, ‘yellow’, ‘brown’, and ‘black.’ One of the most notable distinctives of this special work of God is the growing number of families adopting children of diverse melanin count and ethnic background. There is a reason for this—these families love life, they love children—lots of children, and all different types of children.” Phillips reveals his cluelessness when he laments that we are in the midst of “a generation of rudderless boys, rudderless men, men who lack perspective. They are individual radicals living for themselves with no sense of family, no sense of posterity, no sense of ancestry, no sense of destiny. They do not know who their fathers were, they are not concerned about who their grandchildren are, and they don’t know how to define themselves other than by the experience of the moment.” Well, good luck in teaching those adopted niglets a sense of ancestry.
Here are some folks who have gotten an early start to the next Vision Forum conference:
Here are some ads that we propose be restored for the Vision Forum catalog:
And of course, here’s an absolute necessity for pubescent young patriarchs:
The top prize winner at Doug Phillips’s film festival:
Okay, enough already. There were just a few things we had to get off our chest wig, and now we feel much better.
please stop linking to the “Stuff Black People Hate” site.
Every time I follow a link to that site I get indunated with hundred of windows that I can not close. I have to disconnect from the internet to be able to continue.
Enough all ready!
“It [traditional Irish dance] also consists of white people performing exquisite and complex moves in absolute perfect precision.”
I was watching the variety show “Super Sabado Gigante” a while back (why I was watching a show on Mexican television I cannot tell). The talent portion of the broadcast featured first a young Mexican couple in typical Mexican dance with accordion/mariachi accompaniment. Next was a white girl performing a lovely traditional Irish dance.
The Mexican audience preferred the Irish dancer 83 to 17%!
The latest word on the cover of the Toronto Fun Guide is that the woman is actually a trannie, the black guy used to be a penguin, and the kids were dispatched by an escort service.
Pojemna paszcza-
right next to the rodent (with the sinister stare) look at the other videos, after the You Tube Video you’ve included in this post is done) there exists this one- of a certain ‘ethnos’- showing off his dentures. I’ve never laughed so hard in my life, and it isn’t even digitally enhanced!
You fellows know, I feel more and more like the Canadian Comedienne, Anna Russell, when she says, ‘I’m not making this up, you know!’
P.S. I would have included Doug Phillips in my recent blog post-
http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/what-more-can-be-said/
except he’s located in San Antone, not Moscow. But the shoe still fits, it would appear.
“Phillips reveals his cluelessness when he laments that we are in the midst of “a generation of rudderless boys, rudderless men, men who lack perspective. They are individual radicals living for themselves with no sense of family, no sense of posterity, no sense of ancestry, no sense of destiny. They do not know who their fathers were, they are not concerned about who their grandchildren are, and they don’t know how to define themselves other than by the experience of the moment.” Well, good luck in teaching those adopted niglets a sense of ancestry.”
Is anyone else having the problem John Buchan mentions? I haven’t noticed it.
Mark, that’s very interesting about the dancing, and while we’re on the subject, I just have to ask: Is there any sound more annoying than Mexican music? Every time I’m in a Mexican restaurant, I’m amazed at what they call music. People who can make beans, peppers, tomatoes, and cheese taste so good can surely work on their tunes.
This is the video Fr John mentioned:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OJw_F40IOU
Frightening.
You know, I see a certain mingling of concepts at work presently in the terms ‘Hate Crime’ and ‘Terrorism’. This is of course quite purposeful; once a ‘Hate-Criminal’ is declared a ‘Terrorist’, they have no constitutional rights. They can be locked in a Federal dungeon for the rest of their lives “to keep America safe”.
Everyone has come to accept the whole Jack Bauer idea of preemptive war and ‘heightened interrogation techniques’ for use on Terrorists. As you mention in your post, Obama is now advancing these concepts in the domestic realm to “stop them before they kill” right here in America.
I hope it doesn’t come to this but I see the government aligning legislation and public opinion to start locking away vocal pro-white Christians without charges in a Gitmo-style Gulag. What say you on this?
Yes, I completely agree. And it really doesn’t matter what is written on the paper of the Constitution – they’ll simply ignore it, as they always have. The excuse will always be that security demands the disposal of liberties. It’s all very Orwellian.
The good news is that this is not the first totalitarian regime to arise, and it will end like all the others. The money has already dried up.
The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,
“Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
He who sits in the heavens shall laugh…
(Psalm 2)
I am having the same computer problem as John Buchan with the link to that site
Okay, we’ll stop linking there until they fix it.
Inviting pastors to sodomize themselves? Classy.
Happy 4th of July guys.
“Inviting pastors to sodomize themselves? Classy.”
The Gist of the blogpost was that they might as well, for all the ‘posturing’ they do, in NOT standing up for the law of God. I guess you could see it as ‘damnation by degrees.’ You know, that verse in the Prophets that says, “If I don’t call you to repentance, your blood is on my hands.” That’s about where the ‘metrosexualized’ pastors are, who are all the ‘seeker sensitive’ types.
Could you imagine St. Nicholas, St. John Chrysostom, Calvin, Luther, or even vacillating Cranmer acting in such a sissified fashion in light of the biblical injunctions against sin? I can’t.
In regards to stuff black people don’t like… I recommend using Mozilla Firefox or Google’s web browser instead of using Windows Explorer.You will not have that problem if you use those browsers.
Thanks, Paul. Very good advice for anyone at any time, but can you see if there’s a Javascript problem on your site that’s causing IE to choke?
Keep up the good work!
true dat!
I am using IE. To the oft expressed hilarity of my kids…’You STILL use IE, dad? Don’t you know that it sucks?
Dear Admin,
“the money has dried up”
Admin, believe me – the money is nothing. It was created out of nothing as a mere tool to enable its creators to loot the land, labour, resources and goods of nations as real wealth. The good news is – real wealth has not dried up. The even better news is our treasure is in Heaven.
But for nations that have exchanged their real wealth and treasure in Heaven for a banking scam – yes, sadly, the real wealth is drying up.
The Bells of Catholic St Martins still toll the Second Knell for England: “You owe me five farthings”
There is a deal of history and prophecy in that old Cockney song from Cheapside about the Great Fire of London 1666 and its aftermath. The Bells tell us about the revolution of Cromwell (Oranges and Lemons) – backed by Jewish finance from Amsterdam through the House of Orange. The Great Fire cleared the City within the Wall for the establishment of the Bank of England and the ‘Glorious Revolution’ which saw the accession of William of Orange. He took the English throne, overthrew Catholic Ireland with the Orange Lodges and re-established Reformed England as a serf nation owned by the the House of Rothschild.
In the Cockney song, the corpse of England is laid out with Candle (the Great Fire of 1666), Book (of Accounts) and Bell – the Six Knells of the historic parishes in and around the City.
“Oranges and lemons” say the Bells of St Clements.
In the First Knell, the Bells of St Clements toll the death of England and the bitterness of the Orange connection – its legacy for England in revolution and its legacy for Ireland in conquest, landlordism and serfdom.
St Clements Danes Church was the parish of Oliver Cromwell who lived near St Clement’s Lane. The Church itself is located on the Strand, near the Temple Bar and the Royal Courts of Justice in Westminster. It was from St Clement’s parish that the Royalist prisoners were transported to Virginia by Cromwell during the Protestant Revolution.
In that Revolution, all that remained of England, the “law and libertie” of that once Catholic nation has died. This was the nation that wrote the Magna Carta when the Church, the nobility and Commons attempted to reassert the Promissio Regis of the Saxon Kings annointed by the Church for the English nation. In the Promissio, the King took oath before the Corpus Christi and the high altar of the nation to guarantee before God: “the laws and liberties of England” in the Peace of Christ (the High King of Heaven) and the Apostolic Law of his Church.
But the Plantagent nobility of England struck back against the Magna Carta proposed by England and ratified by the Holy See. So followed the War of the Roses and the Tudor – Plantagent alliance; the Hundred Years War; defeat in France by the armies of the Maid of Orleans and those who succeeded her; the seizure of all Church properties – the patrimony of England in the dissolution of the monasteries; the Reformation, in which the Temporal power of the throne claimed the right to appoint its own bishops – against the law of the Church. Then followed the Protestant revolution of Cromwell, who was backed by the Orange Masonic Lodges and the Jewish finance of the House of Orange. And finally, the Great Plague. And the Bill for this murder, mayhem and treason?
“You owe me five farthings” say the Bells of St Martins.
The Second Knell opens the Book and tolls the price of England’s blood and faith.
Five farthings is the blood price of the national debt. In O.E. a farthing is 1 qrtr of an English cent in the King’s coin of real wealth. It is not a unit of debt at interest. The term ‘five farthings’ is a nonsense that describes a fractional reserve unit. Four farthings of debt units + one farthing of interest in the same currency can never repay that 1 English cent of real wealth. With what does England pay the five farthings to the Jewish Banks of Amsterdam? The nation is looted of its patrimony. Money is a mere commodity. Its rate is fixed by the owners of the nation. In the Cockney song, the City itself is Four Farthings – a parish for a farthing with the 5th (at interest) being the Royal Exchange itself.
“When will you pay me?” say the Bells of Old Bailey.
And there would be Hell to pay once the ownership of England passed to the Crown which is the symbol of the global Money Power. The Banking dynasties of Baring, Lazard, Erlanger, Warburg Schroder, Selingman, Speyers, Mirabaud, Malet, Morgan and Rothschild set up the Bank of England in 1694 as a private corp. This is the international financial oligarchy headquartered in the City of London. (Prof Caroll Quigley. Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time. 1966: p. 51)
“When I grow rich” say the Bells of Shoreditch
From that time, in the affairs of Europe, “the Money Power is supreme and unquestioned.” (William Glastone, Chancellor of the Exchequer 1852 quoted in Tragedy and Hope, p. 351) They would close the Commons and drive free English people into the great industrial slums of East London, Sheffield and York; they would clear the highlands of Scotland to pasture the Cheviot sheep; they would bury entire villages of Cymry under slag heaps.
“When will that be?” say the Bells of Stepney
When the owners of the Consuls of the Bank of England own the earth in fee simple; the ultimate cost of those five farthings that can never be repaid will be the wealth of nations.
“I do not know” say the great Bells of Bow.
But we know. In Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand tells us. When the lights of New York go out for the last time – ” We have the world.”
“Here comes a candle to light you to bed” (the Great Fire of London 1666)
“Here comes a chopper to chop off your head” (the Levellers – Protestantism, Cromwell, democracy, liberalism, liberty, fraternity, equality, the Great (Masonic) Revolution of 1789, the overthrow of every Catholic throne and altar in Europe on the tomb of Jacques de Molay, the Civil War to pave the way for the American Rothschild Cartel, the Bolshevik Revolution 1917, the global War of Terror 2001…)
“Chip Chop; Chip Chop – the last man is dead” Charles (the man) II, the last king of England – an hereditary Knight Templar of the House of Stewart – presided over the ruin of his nation.
But there is another side to this story. For Heaven took a direct Hand in these matters. Our Lord Himself appeared to St Margaret Mary of Alacoque a 24 year old sister of the Order of the Visitation of Our Lady at Paray-le-Monial (1647-1690). He appeared to her as Christ the King, the Lord of Hosts who must reign “until all his enemies are under his feet” (1 Cor 15:25) He revealed to the young sister, his Sacred Heart with these words: “Behold My Heart which has so loved men that It spared nothing, even going so far as to exhaust and consume Itself to prove to them My love.” He told St Margaret Mary that it was by means of His Sacred Heart He intended to rule all nations. As King and Lord of Hosts, he told her it was as the Sacred Heart that He desired to be known in the battles soon to commence.
Through St Margret Mary of Alacoque, the Sacred Heart set before France – that elect nation – a choice. There could be a high road of victories in defense of the Faith and Christendom or there could be a low road of long defeat to Restoration. Either way, Our Lord would triumph in His Church; but the manner of that Triumph – He placed before the Crown of the Lillies.
If King Louis and his court would embrace this devotion to Our Lord’s Sacred Heart and have the nation of France consecrated to the Sacred Heart, then would the Lord Himself give permission for this new In Hoc Signatio Vinces to be displayed upon the King’s banners and engraved upon the Catholic arms in defense of the Faith, in defense of Christendom. These battles were coming, he told St Margaret Mary and he was placing the matter of His victory before the King and nobility of France.
Sadly, Kings Louis XIV, XV and XVI all declined to have the French nation consecrated to the Sacred Heart. And in 1789 on the Day of the Feast of the Sacred Heart, the Jacobites / Jacobins unleashed the Great Revolution that is now in its global or Communist phase.
The Low Road of the long defeat culminating in final victory for the Church and the Restoration of Christendom had been chosen.
One of Roanoke Virginia’s most noble sons, Eustace Mullins is in print again.
Quick, Quick – burn to CD and archive for the home libraries his masterful essay:
The Secret Holocaust: The Real Holocaust was a Christian Holocaust by Jews of Sixty-Six Million, Mostly Christians by Eustace Mullins
Published on http://www.rense.com July 8, 2009
Please also note the wyrd Google logo featuring a weatherworx satellite showing the double o as an infinity glyph. Wouldn’t you love to know what this is a code for.
““Wildings” are simply accepted as justifiable expressions of black “rage.” Instead of being condemned, understanding is urged on behalf of the poor, misunderstood “youths” who behave just as their ancestors did a century or more ago.”
Vice is a monster of so frightful mien,
As to be hated needs but to be seen;
Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face,
We first endure, then pity, then embrace.
~Alexander Pope, Essay on Man
That’s the perfect diagnosis for the White condition.
Admin,
One wonders if White Nationalist atheists, “gnostics” and libertarians would continue to be regularly scolded (at least once per post lately, it seems) and referred to as “jackals” etc. if they were utterly insignificant and without some influence/impact within the racialist movement. That is, if they weren’t perceived as a serious rival and/or threat to Christian Kinists attempts to hold onto what little is left, with the hope of regaining large amounts of territory in the future. As one of the so-called “infidels”, I find this to be encouraging, yet unhappy. Encouraging, because it’s just one more sign that the twisted, distorted alien -but, more importantly, simply untrue- religion that has visited such misery and destruction upon our people has indeed finally lost its hold and power over the European Mind and will soon (historically speaking) breathe its last, never to rise again. It’s all over but the shouting, and this is truly fantastic news.
It is, however, unhappy in that some of our brave brothers, who are real men of intelligence, honor, decency and integrity, still fail to correctly interpret the signs all around them, still can’t see the forest for the trees, still insist on living in a world that is long past and gone for good. It doesn’t have to be that way. They can put it down. If they woke up tomorrow as non-Christians, how would their lives be different in any substantial way? The wouldn’t. They would still be European men who love their kith and kin, love freedom, hate tyranny and try to live responsible lives. That’s what we religion-free Nationalists do every day to the best of out abilities and we welcome all Kinists to join us.
PS- Disagreement is one thing. Two sane, rational people can honestly differ on the issues. It doesn’t mean either of them is necessarily a total froot-loop, but it must also be clear to you by now that you have at least one regular commenter who is at best mentally unstable, and at worst quite likely insane, and I have no doubt you know exactly who I mean.
I am using Firefox, without Flash installed, and I have no problems viewing the stuffblackpeoplehate site. There’s a background informational message from the browser about there being flash content that isn’t displaying (since I don’t have it installed) but that’s all.
BTW, responding to hohenzollern: my sympathies are with your position, however I think conflict between Christian and non-Christian white racialists should be avoided as much as possible. A fundamental principle that we are fighting for is the right of a people to self-determination, including in determining its own identity. If Christian white racialists do not want to give up their religion, that is entirely their decision and their right, and arguing with them about it will lead absolutely nowhere. Once the point of disagreement is established, that is it; the matter may then be dropped, as there are more pressing concerns.
If/when Christian racialists decide that promoting Christianity is the more important side of their identity – to the point where they feel white racialism in the absence of Christianity is a problem to be fought as much as the mainstream culture – then, we have a problem. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
Prayers & good wishes to Harry & his family on the birth of his wee girl!
I do pray that Gods grace may be evident in their lives in the days that follow.
Many of us that follow this site remember with fondenes the good work of our brother Harry & the patience of his dear wife that made it all possible. So now we pray that our Father will remember his faithful servants & bless them with His peace & grace.
Pax+
Just read this amazing article.
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/07/lds_missionarie.php
Seems Mormons are not ‘lily-white’ anymore.
Nor are they for the interests of the USA, (as if they ever were……)
As I continue to state, the hallmark of a cult is their commitment to ‘racial diversity.’
‘Moonies, Mormons, and Methodists, oh my.’
‘We’re not in Kansas anymore, Toto.’
It would even appear that ‘Kansas’ is ‘not in Kansas anymore’… certainly Salt Lake City isn’t.
“Better jobs for everyone except white firemen, that is. So much for wise Latinas. We can now report that Sonia Sotomayor is even crazier than Ruth Bader Ginsburg.”
What continues to fascinate me is the ongoing capitulation to a situation in which white people simply cannot win. If you ignore the race of a minority, as in the case of Sotomayor, then you’re insensitive to the accomplishments of minorities, and a racist. If you happen to bring up the fact Sotomayor is hispanic then you’re stereotyping her, and a racist. When will we wake up and realize none of the things you bemoan about here really matter, and that whites will continue to be forced into these kinds of scenarios – that what is needed is for white Christian men to begin rebuilding the foundations for a new and stable society for ourselves and our posterity?
Hohenzollern,
How would our lives be different if we weren’t christians.. let me count the ways. For one thing, I would probably be dead by now. For another thing, my source of law, morality and ultimate salvation would be rooted in the opinions of men, and not the Word of God. That’s a huge difference, in my mind.
Nevertheless, I recognize, along with you and Rollory, that our people should refrain from fratricidal warfare and cooperate as much as we can to regain and sustain our nations for our children. As long as I have the freedom to respectfully present Christ to you, and others like you, with no coercion or manipulation, and certainly no malice or intimidation, we should be able to get along in more practical matters. But make no mistake, christians must preach the gospel. We simply don’t have the option of not doing so, it is something our Lord requires of us. For our part, we will try to make christianity attractive and not repugnant to you; both in our conduct and morality and in what we say. And I think you will find in time, that true christianity is not at odds with a racial consciousness for all peoples, as this site makes clear. The main problems we see today are of our own making; the church has not stood for the whole counsel of God, which includes what used to be understood as a theology of the ‘nations’, for many hundreds of years. But.. we’re still here; and we still stand on our Lord’s promise, that the gates of hell shall not triumph over His church. And ultimately, that promise is the best hope of any people; including our own.
Rollory,
Covenant is thicker than blood. While we Christians will defend our race, we will defend the honor of our Lord Jesus Christ with even more vigor.
If surrounded on one side with rioting Negroes on the other with blaspheming white libertines, we will, in the words attributed to George Patton, attack in both directions.
The city of God versus the city of man is the ultimate conflict of history. Christians will never make peace with anyone who dishonors the name of our Lord.
Rollory,
Good to know I’m not utterly alone around here. I agree with your statement. At least, I would if all thing were equal, but they’re not. Conflict SHOULD be avoided as much as possible, yes, but how much IS that? I’m not out to get into incessant debates with Christians. I used to be one and they’re good people for whom I have great respect, especially these guys.
To a degree we should live and let live, and in a hypothetical future where Whites have secured the existence of our people and rekindled the flame of healthy racial identity/awareness, there will hopefully be the option for religiously like-minded Whites to organize themselves into states (Christian, secular, etc.) that are friendly and cooperative with each other instead of antagonistic or, God forbid, bent on waging holy war on their neighbors, or even using it as a pretext.
But we are a LONG way from such a situation, and in the meantime I don’t think it hurts to debate these things to a degree. Kinists certainly don’t hesitate to take swipes at non-believers in the magical, resurrecting Jew-god they worship (who as a divine yet corporeal being resides we know not where -in another dimension, hovering out in the deep reaches of our galaxy?) I supppose it makes them feel better, at least temporarily. It obviously doesn’t accomplish anything. But as long as they’re willing to let us speak our piece and not censor comments, I take that as an implicit invitation to rebut and critique their beliefs.
You’re absolutely correct, it is their right to hold onto their beliefs, however unseemly, but that also has an effect on the rest of us, not necessarily positive.
“If/when Christian racialists decide that promoting Christianity is the more important side of their identity – to the point where they feel white racialism in the absence of Christianity is a problem to be fought as much as the mainstream culture – then, we have a problem. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon.”
True. Neither do I see it happening soon, or ever, but it’s still worth noting that they DO see racialism and therefore individual racialists (really, life in toto) sans Christianity as a very big problem, and we shouldn’t kid ourselves about that.
Fortunately, they’re never going to have the power -probably even in a new racialist political paradigm- to do anything nasty to the rest of us. There are so few of them now and by that time there may be none. In the meantime, however, they do believe God wrote a book of which they are the proper interpreters and enforcers, and are itching to stone, lynch, behead some blasphemers, homos and other assorted “deviated preverts” as prescribed in “The Scriptures”. They know they’re never going to exercise the privilege personally, but dream of the day their great-grandchildren will.
Amen to that, John!
Littlegeneva.com is once again being put to good use, this time very personal.
Congratulations to Harry on the birth of his daughter.
Randall,
Well said. I have great respect for your thoughtfulness and sincerity. You claim that if not for Christianity, you’d probably be dead by now. Knowing nothing about you, I can’t speak to that. However, you make the assumption that you require salvation. What if you don’t? What if you require salvation from the idea that you require salvation from the judgement of a wrathful deity who is external to yourself?
Likewise, what if it isn’t the “Word of God”, but some old books written by pre-scientific sheep-shagging heebs? Then your source of law and morality is already rooted in the opinions of men. You just haven’t recognized it yet. Do so, and you will wake up tomorrow as I said.
Still, I understand you feel compelled to preach the gospel and will always support your freedom to do so, if for no other reason than that suppressing or persecuting religious speech tends to have the unintended consequence of intensifying the zeal of fanatics, as is well known.
So, why, if Christianity is true, does it have all these problems of its adherents’ own making? How and why, some 2,000 years on, has “the Church” failed to uphold the whole counsel of God to the extent that it has lost the continent of Europe and is well on its way to losing North America? Why are the different “Christianities” only making new inroads in the most backward, desperate, ignorant and non-White areas of the world? Have you ever stopped even for one minute to consider that it all might, just MIGHT, not be true?
Hohenzollern,
You seem to be a student of history sir. I would remind you that the church is most effective, and from your point of view the most dangerous, when we are few and weak humanly speaking. God delights in using Gideon’s paltry 300 to cause mighty Moab to fall on their own swords. The fall of Rome was hastened and engineered by suffering, bleeding christians. Which is to say, the weakness of God is stronger then men, and the wisdom of God, wiser then men.
“The city of god vs the city of man is the ultimate conflict of history. Christians will never make peace with anyone who dishonours the name of our Lord.”
Very well said, Dabney July 13, 09.
And the corollary is also true. The city of man will never make peace with anyone who honours the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Lord: he is God and King; Jesus: he is man; Christ: he is the eternal, Annointed high priest and sacrifice for the sins of the entire human race. There is no other name of salvation.
And the city of man has a problem with this. The city of man has always had a problem with this. The Church was only established after centuries of persecution of Christians at the hands of the pagans.
Even so, I have yet to read here any posts that are “swipes” (Hohenzollern July 13) at the pieties of ancient pagan Europe.
Ancient pietas is not really the issue here.
The Church might have forbade human sacrifices, cannabalism, blood drinking, Berserkers etc, but the mood of the Christians toward the ancient pieties often expresses the quality of rest in peace. As in these elegaic lines of Milton which link the older matter with
“…Thy slaughtered sains, whose bones
Lie scattered on the Alpine mountains cold
Ev’n them who kept Thy truth so pure of old
When all our fathers worshipped stocks and stones…
‘On the Late Massacre at Piedmont’
I think in those lines Milton, as a Protestant, was more truthful than he knew. I see in these lines no despise of the memories of Beowulf and Beorhtwold and the other heros of the matter of N.W. Europe who came from the darkness before the dawn of the Evangelium in Europe. Maybe they did worship stocks and stones, but if they had not Christ to worship, there are many worse things they could have worshipped.
Like race, for instance. There is only one nation that worships itself as its own god. Their supreme codex The Talmud expresses the Judaic imperium and its racial supremacacy unequivocably.
And with the resources of the internet, it has been possible to discover that Judaics have massively infiltrated the movements seeking to defend the White Cause. Essentially, in their positive expression, such movements are not at odds with Christianity. As Randall has truly said ‘Christianity is not at odds with the racial consciousness of all peoples.’ (July 13) Indeed in ‘the communion of the saints’, the Church by publishing the lives of the saints and incorporating them into pious tradition recognizes the nationality of the saint and how the life of the saint has edified their entire nation. The universal Church knows much of national histories, customs and folkways through the lives of the saints and their traditions.
The Apostolic Law and the Church does, however, oppose the idea of supremacy based upon race – of which Judaism based in Talmud is the gold standard. And it is of interest that Jews posing as white advocates, supremacists, neonazies, ‘islamofascists’ etc are outed every day on the net.
What this Infiltration is seeking to do is, of course, subvert organisations advocating and defending legitimate white interests and rights. And when you have a Supreme Court nominee publicly advocating the castration of every white male in the U.S. of A. (great shades of the Jew Morgantheau!), then these rights must be vigorously asserted in public domain against tyranny and hate.
This is not, however, the Agenda of the Jewish Infiltrators posing as White Advocates, Kinists, Neo-nazis, etc . The Infiltraitors are exercised in attempting to twist the platforms and orgs for the White Cause: its defense and advocacy into a credo of race worship and supremacist hate. They are working to retool these organisations as crude flatteries of Talmudism.
And this above all else, the Infiltrators spare no efforts to denigrate the historic Christian faith of the White race – East and West. On the basis of so called ‘common cause’, their comments can be read on all the blogs kvetching on topics like:
“magical resurrecting Jew-god they worship (who as a divine yet corporeal being resides we know not where…” Hohenzollern July 13
And spitting the matzoh when their blasphemies are censored by the Christians
And sitting shivah for “such misery and destruction” as Christianity “this simply untrue religion has visited upon our people.” Hohenzollern July 12
The Christian faith raised European civilization both East and West, so ‘whose people’ exactly is this Mushuggah Hohenzollern talking about? The hallowed 6,000,000 which Cabbalistic value, the Goyim dare not question? The prohibitions of the Church and European nations against usury? The prohibitions of the Church against the practice of the Talmud and its many specific and detailed dicta for the harm of the Gentiles and Christian human sacrifices? – for which there were indeed severe penalties in Christian Europe for Talmud practice.
Come on, Hohenzollern. You stop futzing around on this blog with your stupid ‘pagan’ shtick. These ‘pagan pieties’ are just a blind that supposedly entitles you to post your blasphemies against the Lord Jesus Christ – your Messiah, the Messiah of Israel.
Reading the vulgar vitriol and blasphemies of anti-Christian White nationalists, like hohenzollern, raises the question in my mind if these fanatics are more hateful towards Christ, His holy Gospel, and Law than the despicable Jews? Undoubtedly, when it comes to hating on Christianity, the Jew and the anti-theist White nationalist hold friendly, sweaty hands firmly. Strange bedfellows indeed, but strange bedfellows nonetheless.
I’ll be praying for our Father in Heaven to bless the health of mother and daughter.
Oscar, there is a sense in which we must say that in the end, there are only two groups of men — on the right hand are those who are loved by Christ and who love Him in return, and on the left hand are those with whom Christ has nothing to do, and who in turn wish to have nothing to do with Christ. The latter group shall be punished by having their wish granted.
Oscar- Have you never heard of the term, ‘shabbas goy’?
Oscar,
What vulgar vitriol and blasphemies? I (we) have simply said that Christians worship a purportedly resurrected Jew and that fundamentalism is untrue. If it is, why, aside from presuppositional reasoning -which is circular, long on invalid appeals to authority and baseless assertions, and is a mechanism of denial rather than a proper apologia- are we to believe in such ludicrous nonsense? To do so is to live in a fantasy world of one’s own making: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979963109/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p14_t1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=08SSQTF79ZBWPQCD7VBH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939291&pf_rd_i=507846
Is rejecting fundamentalism, which is contradicted by every modern science and rational tool of investigation, really hateful blasphemy, or is putting on blinders and stubbornly continuing to insist (against all evidence!) on a literal interpretation of the NT and “Jesus Christ” as actual historical entities and phenomena, when the latter is demonstrably a later bastardization of the Gnostics’ mythical, allegorical invention?
I don’t hate “Christ”. But I’m also perfectly aware that “he” was not/is not an actual historical person, nor are the gospels eyewitness testimonies of the “events” they describe. NO ONE can REASONABLY be expected to believe those assertions anymore, yet if they don’t, they’re consigned to the flames by fundamentalists who do. Which is more hateful?
Lynda,
Brevity is the soul of wit, love; you should try posting less than 10,000 words sometime.
I don’t normally allow a woman to speak to me the way you have, so unless you’ve been delegated some administrative authority by the powers that be, which is totally unimaginable, don’t tell me what to do. I would tell you to sit down and shut your trap, lest I be constrained to take you over my knee and administer a good spanking. However, as you are “not quite right”, which must be clear to all -whether they voice it or not, I can assure you I’m not the only one who thinks so- I’ll forgo that.
There are a couple of things that you bungled that I want to set right. I did not say posts were swiping at “ancient pagan Europe”, I said modern, pagan/secular racialists.
I’m sure you’re RIGHT that there are some Jewish “infiltrators” in the ranks of White Nationalism, but your contention that all, or the majority, of pagan and/or atheist racialists are actually Jews is either a paranoid, delusional fantasy or an attempt to persuade other Christians, out of fear (you fairly reek of it), not to listen to us. And your vile and ignorant accusation that I am a Jew would be the ultimate insult were it not so laughable. Oh Lynda, that is one of the funniest things I’ve heard all week. Believe what you want, I don’t care, nor am I obliged to prove anything to you, but I am not a filthy kike.
Hohenzollern,
Only the Jews, following the Talmud, refer to Jesus as ‘the bastard’ as in:
“when the latter [Jesus Christ] is demonstrably a later bastardization of the Gnostics’ mythical” blah, blah, blah
And just as they draw swastikas on synagogues, Jews are well-known for putting ‘hate speech’ against the Jews all over the Christian websites, where posing as Christians, white nationalists or whatever, they refer to the Jews as “filthy kikes” and in language that, let us just say, is not generally the tone of a Christian blog. The idea, of course, is to characterise the Christians as ‘hate speakers’ in the minds of the ignorant.
I do not call the Jews anything but Jews, even when they are posing in other identities.
And again – more of your Jewish tactics of smear, tirade and twist that should be pointed out for those who do not understand ‘by deception do war’.
I did not say that all or even the majority of pagan and/or atheist white nationalists are Jews. I am saying that you are a Jew who is infiltrating the white nationalist movement. I am saying that you are a Jew who is invoking ‘common cause’ to gain access to Christian blogs where you blasdpheme Christ – as the Jews are wont to do.
I could not care less, Hohenzollern, what you normally allow or don’t allow. If I decide to write something for this blog or anyother blog, I do not require anyone’s permission. This notion that the goyim require permission from an authority to speak and write is of course thoroughly Jewish. Freedom of speech, (I realize) goes totally against your most ingrained prejudices. I do understand, but fail to sympathize. If Admin chooses to publish what I write on their own blog (or not) please take up your whine with Admin.
Shalom
I didn’t post Hohenzollern’s latest comment because it was all insult and no substance. For the record, we think Lynda’s comments are fantastic. If white American children in our “schools” could learn the things she knows, we wouldn’t be turning into an idiocracy. Also, while we’re fond of Hohenzollern and don’t want to censor his comments, this isn’t a good forum for Christian versus atheist debates. This is a Christian blog that serves meat, not milk. Hohenzollern is suppressing the Holy Spirit, as it says in the book of Romans, and he knows perfectly well what he is doing. Unless God grants him repentance, no amount of evidence will persuade him (which is why such debates are always fruitless), and as Christopher says, he will end his life as he desires.
” … arguing about it will lead absolutely nowhere.”
Oh well.
Dabney – to be clear: would you include a group of people who have studied Christianity, have decided they do not find it sufficient or compelling and cannot find any certainty in their hearts of its truth, and seek to build an honorable society by following such wisdom as they can attain on their own and/or guided by tradition, among “blasepheming white libertines”?
You would consider them an immediate threat equal in magnitude to “rioting Negroes”?
Randall Gerard – some of my best friends are Christians. We talk about morality and ethics from time to time, and what (different) paths we follow to arrive at similar conclusions. I see no problem with that, and they seem to have no problem with me.
Admin,
I have to admit, I’m disappointed, but hope that this will make it to publication. That last comment was a classic, if I say so myself. Now Lynda will just be tormented, wondering how I skewered her this time. Such is your right and far be it from me to protest, but can her accusations of me not be considered insults? There’s no substance to that. Nor is the ability to name and reference drop evidence of anything but the ablitity to name and reference drop. There’s no substance in her posts. The woman credulously believes in the historicity of apocryphal Catholic tales and legends such as St. Patrick vs. The Snakes and the “Sacred Heart” vision, and God only knows what else. Come on! You can’t tell me that you don’t find this a bit eccentric, at BEST. Come ooooooon.
“This is a Christian blog that serves meat, not milk. Hohenzollern is suppressing the Holy Spirit, as it says in the book of Romans, and he knows perfectly well what he is doing.”
Insisting on a literal interpretation of Scripture as history and/or the Joshua Messiah myth is milk. Gnosis, the understanding of all things as essentially One, that WE are God, the One manifesting as the many…is meat. How can the Holy Spirit be suppressed? I have more confidence in it than that! What I am doing is trying to persuade my White brothers standing on their religious ice-floe not to continue to slowly drift further and further out to sea and get them to ponder if, in the end, they really want to be found on the wrong side of history.
So nu Hohenzollern – it is your blasphemous remarks and Jewish worldview that is here being served up en brochette. With onion sauce, I might add.
“Gnosis, the understanding of all things as essentially One, that WE are God, the one manifesting as the many…is meat.”
Is that so? For Kinist readers who are following this, please note that a good introduction to the Judaic stream of Gnosticism is from the Judaic Nag Hammadi library. That is the Jews – both Essene and Pharisaic Edomites of Palestinian Judah whose law (like that of the Pharisees) was the Tradition of the Elders (later codified as the Babylonian Talmud) had reworked and reconfigured all the Mosaic writings to their Babylonian Tradition of the Elders and the Babylonian gnosticism.
Gnosticism originates in Babyon and the gateway of Gnostism into the West was Jewry – the Pharisees, the Essenes (their Nag Hammadi library), the Jews of Alexandria etc. A good introduction to this may be found on the Gnostic website Dark Mirrors of Heaven. http://www.timelessmyths.com/mirrors/gnostic.php.
But there is much sterner stuff in Gnosticism than this “We are God” – and ‘out of many – one’ mush. This is the credo of the so called master race which has decided to assert rather than just enjoy its divinity. Pharisaic law and the Kahal are the direct ancestors of the Judaic Imperium of modern times.
“The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races..and by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privildege of citizenship. In this New World Order the children of Israel…will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition.” Karl Marx correspondence to Baruch Levy. Review de Paris June 1, 1928, p.l54. http://www.scribd.com/5554557/The-Jewish-people-as-a-whole-will-become-its-own-Messiah.
This is the wrong side of history and eternity, in a nutshell, Hohenzollern. This is the doomed project that is going to fall as nothing has fallen since Lucifer. Not even the fall of Babylon will compare with the fall of this Imperium.
Furthermore, this type of Reversal is actually one of the Divine signatures in both history (of which Jesus Christ is Lord) and Fairy – even pagan fairy tales.
You know too little of paganism, Hohenzollern, to get what I am saying here. So (and this may put my post well over whatever word limit you have assigned) I fear I shall have to quote at length from someone who does understand this very well.
“Far more powerful and poignant is the effect in a serious tale of Faerie. In such stories when the sudden ‘turn’ comes we get a piercing glimpse of joy and heart’s desire that for a moment passes outside the frame, rends indeed the very web of story and lets a gleam come through”…
“This joy which I have selected as the mark of the true fairy story, or as the seal upon it, merits more consideration.
“…in the ‘eucatastrophe’ we see in a brief vision that the answer may be greater – it may be a far-off gleam or echo of Evangelium in the real world.”
“I would venture to say that approaching the Christian Story from this direction, it has long been my feeling (a joyous feeling) that God redeemed the corrupt making-creatures, men, in a way fitting to this aspect, as to others, of their strange nature. The Gospels contain a fairy-story or a story of a larger kind which embraces all the essence of fairy stories. They contain many marvels – peculiarly artistic, beautiful and moving: ‘mythical’ in their perfect, self-contained significance; and among the marvels is the greatest and most complete conceivable eucatastrophe. But this story has entered History and the primary world; the desire and aspirations of sub-creation has been raised to the fulfillment of Creation. The Birth of Christ is the eucatastrophe of Man’s history. The Resurrection is the eucatastrophe of the story of the Incarnation.”
I could quote more but why spoil it for those who would wish to read all of it for themselves. J.R.R. Tolkien (professor of Anglo Saxon, Oxford and author of The Lord of the Rings) The Tolkien Reader. ‘On Faerie Stories” New York: Ballantine Books p. 71-73.
The Christian faith holds the Lord Jesus Christ to be the Lord of history, the King of Angels and Men and this context makes Tolkien’s comment on the character of Faerie successful in terms of story and Gospel and world and time.
“The Evangelium has not abrogated Faerie, it has hallowed it, especially the happy ending.” And one might add the ‘eucatastrophe or sudden joyous turn of events’. This is a divine signature. It is sucessful even in a bad story, but it is supremely successful in the story of Jesus. And it will be successfuly again in his Church in time.
The Lord must reign as King until all his enemies are under his feet. (1 Cor 15:25; Heb 10:13) He intends to rule all nations by means of his Sacred Heart. If, the long centuries of defeat to Restoration has been chosen (by man), then his Triumph in history will have all the qualities of eucatastrophe. Indeed, it will supremely have all the qualities of eucatstrophe we appreciate in Faerie and then some more.
This is the meat and potatoes of the matter.
Whereas, the ‘wrong side of history’ delusion is to give heed to “Jewish myths” Titus 1:14.
Dear Admin,
Thank you for your vote of confidence. I have read with greatest interest, benefit and appreciation the many posts of your authors writing for Spirit Water Blood and all the comments for some time before I ever wrote in as a regular. And I am happy to sojourn here for awhile.
I am honoured if the things I write can assist in any way the Kinists writing and reading here, the home schools and parishes. My bishop has asked me to write on the net and for the Church in Eclipse and this is what I do in addition to my family, my profession, daily duties and assisting the home schools.
I do not believe I have insulted Hohenzollern. I think he is Jewish and I have addressed him as a Jew who is posting here as a pagan or a gnostic or an atheist or whatever his identity is this week. The Ashkhanzim are a people of Rus. They are of East European caucasian race. And it is to be regretted that he has not joined the Jewish and ex Jewish American roll of honour in the American cause which includes such excellent company as:
Benjamin Freedman, Jack Bernstein, Br Nathanael Kapner to name only a few.
Lynda,
Speaking of Tolkien, I’m reminded of the scene in the movie version of LotR (I’m sure you’ve seen it) where Pippen and Meri have been intercepted by Treebeard the Ent, who suspects them of being Orcs. Meri keeps pleading with him (Treebeard) that they are Hobbits, not Orcs, causing Pippen to exclaim, “Don’t talk to it Meri, don’t encourage it!”
I think that’s good advice and applicable here. I’ve already let myself be distracted by your comments about “blasphemous remarks” and “Jewish worldview” etc., which caused me to respond in a kneejerk, confrontational manner, which just happens to be one of my weaknesses. You are lost and confused, which calls for patience, understanding and compassion on my part, which I failed to display.
It was silly and childish to allow myself to be provoked. For that, I apologize and hope you can forgive me. I don’t think further direct interaction between us would be profitable at this point, but I will probably still make occasional comments on a variety of topics directed towards Admin and other posters as long as they will indulge me. We’ve established that we’re both firmly convinced of our positions, and not going to change the other’s mind. Fine. It’s time to move on.
Gott mit uns.
Lynda makes a very interesting point about the similarities between Jews and whites who write such things as:
“Gnosis, the understanding of all things as essentially One, that WE are God, the One manifesting as the many…is meat.”
Jews aren’t looking for a Messiah because they are their own gods. It’s very similar to cosmotheism and other quackery from (some) white nationalists who quite literally worship the white race. We call ourselves Kinists, in part, to distinguish ourselves from this idolatry.
Hohenzollern,
By all means, let us move on. This website offers apologetics and intellectual debate on a range of issues which bear upon the European race, faith and culture. I am sure many are waiting with interest to hear you actually debate your positions with argument, evidences, deduction, induction etc.
However, blasphemous statements against the Lord Jesus Christ, his person and work, should not enter into any principled debate regardless of the position. Even an atheist can debate his or her nonbelief without blaspheming.
It is by reason of the type of blasephmous denigrations of the Lord Jesus Christ you are wont to state on this blog, that the Prince of the Host, St Michael, prostrated himself upon the earth at the Serra da Aire in 1916 and taught the shepherd children of the Serra (all under the age of 12 yrs) to console their God by praying as he asked:
Holy, Holy, Holy. Most Holy Trinity Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I offer You the most precious Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ present in all the tabernacles of the earth in reparation for the sacrileges, outrages and indifference by which He Himself is offended. And through the infinite merits of His Most Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of you the conversion of poor sinners.
And yes, these completely unschooled children aged 11, 9 and 7 were able to learn this prayer and repeat it for their parish priest, who was astounded. As indeed was the entire Catholic world, for no matter how you look at it – it is theologically perfect, as are all the prayers of the Angels – only a few of which we know from the Bible.
Blaspheme our Lord again, Hohenzollern, and I guarantee you another exchange such as the above – should Admin decide to publish my comment.
Qui ut Deus
Admin,
Well, as I stated in my censored post, Lynda can say whatever she wants till the Virgin appears in the next piece of gruyere, but facts are facts: I am not Jewish and will put my family tree up against anyone’s. I am an ex-Christian, White man who read and commented at Little Geneva as a Christian for well over a year and have continued to read this site, off and on.
Gnosticism is not Jewish, though there were and are Jewish Gnostics, Philo (you know, one of the many contemporary writers who somehow just failed to make any mention whatsoever of any “Jesus Christ” Doh!) among them. They picked it up from Egypt and Greece. It’s the perennial philosophy.
Also, I’d be interested to hear why cosmotheism (or any other) is “quackery” compared to so-called orthodox Christianity. It’s nothing more than familiar bias that causes people to say things like that, and every time I ask a question such as why fundamentalists believe that God wrote a book, ask how we can know that, ask why, if He did, it’s full of outlandish events, most of which can’t be verified but must be taken “on faith” and others that have actually been disproven by the historical/archeological record. Such beliefs are absurd, baseless and must be labeled so. Where is the current bodily location of Joshua Messiah???
That is, every time I ask these questions, I’m either ignored, insulted or treated to a lecture on presuppositional apologetics, none of which answer the questions. What drives me crazy is the massive double-standard Kinists employ when determining the truthfulness of any other subject, the Holocaust comes to mind, and the veracity of their own religion. They have no sacred cows and barbecue them left and right…except for one, and it is one the fattest cows of all.
“I do not believe I have insulted Hohenzollern. I think he is Jewish and I have addressed him as a Jew who is posting here as a pagan or a gnostic or an atheist or whatever his identity is this week. The Ashkhanzim are a people of Rus. They are of East European caucasian race. And it is to be regretted that he has not joined the Jewish and ex Jewish American roll of honour in the American cause which includes such excellent company as:
Benjamin Freedman, Jack Bernstein, Br Nathanael Kapner to name only a few.”
Lynda, if you have read Br. Nathanael, then you know that I am an Orthodox clergyman, and not a protestant. I have my differences with the men who write SWB, but I always come back to them, for they (at least) are not afraid of the Truth that Belloc so clearly stated, that “Europe is the Faith; the Faith, Europe.”
Because you have written on this forum, and on the aforementioned fora as well about ‘the Sacred Heart’ etc., you clearly tell us you are a Roman Catholic. I was raised as an RC, and while I have the greatest respect for the HISTORIC Catholic Church, I also feel that what passes for such in the modern era, is not it. And the concrete evidence that Rome, for the last forty years (at least) has been in the forefront of ‘de-Europizing’ the Faith of Christendom, makes her not an ally, but an enemy of the greatest magnitude.
Therefore, when you state that the Khazarim/AshkeNAZIS are “… a people of Rus…[t]hey are of East European caucasian race,” my antennae sense a subliminal insult to the only historic Church that has given Rome a ‘run for her money’- the Orthodox Church, as well as the sons of Adam that are called by name ‘Caucasian,’ to this very day.
Are you saying that the same people that became Russian Orthodox, and led the Eastern Roman Empire even after the fall of Constantinople for yet another (almost) five hundred years [!] (1453-1917) are somehow ETHNICALLY RELATED to those of the likes of the ADL, the JDL, and the other ‘sons of Satan’ [John 8:44] that are causing Christendom so much trouble? And are you saying that the phenotype (genetically speaking) of the swarthy, greasy, hook-nosed Jew, is in ANY way related to the Nordic Ideal of Beauty that artists from Greece on down have considered THEIR ideal of artistic perfection?
You are too intelligent not to know your history- do you not know that Sviatislov CONQUERED the Khazars, precisely because they were NOT Rus- or Caucasian!?
I quote: “The Khazars were a Turkic (1) people who originated in Central Asia.”
As the website clearly notes of this event, “One of the most devastating defeats came in 965, when Rus Prince Svyatoslav conquered the Khazar fortress of Sarkel. It is believed that he conquered Itil two years later, after which he campaigned in the Balkans. Despite the loss of their nation, the Khazar people did not disappear. Some of them migrated westward into Hungary, Romania, and Poland, mixing with other Jewish communities.” – http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-history.html
Please. Don’t insinuate another, older Church of Christendom, and her ethnic White peoples, by making accusations that are ungrounded, or racially insensitive.
Christopher Witmer,
Indeed my brother. The elect of God will enjoy Paradise and the non-elect will weep and gnash their teeth in Hell. Praise the Lord Jesus our Savior for His sacrifice on the cross to save sinners like us! May the Father be pleased to bring many more of our people to Christ’s Kingdom.
Fr. John,
Yes, many “goyim” are doing the evil work of the Jew in attacking Christians and His holy Church. Sadly, many of them are in White Nationalist circles.
Hohenzollern,
What vulgar vitriol and blasphemies?
“…religion that has visited such misery and destruction upon our people has indeed finally lost its hold and power over the European Mind and will soon (historically speaking) breathe its last, never to rise again.”
“…still insist on living in a world that is long past and gone for good.”
“…They can put it down. If they woke up tomorrow as non-Christians, how would their lives be different in any substantial way? The wouldn’t.”
“…Kinists certainly don’t hesitate to take swipes at non-believers in the magical, resurrecting Jew-god they worship (who as a divine yet corporeal being resides we know not where -in another dimension, hovering out in the deep reaches of our galaxy?”
To refresh your mind, the above were some of your filthy vitriol and blasphemous comments. You show an extreme hatred of Christianity like every anti-theist I have encountered. Something I would expect from someone brainwashed at the Stalinist Youth Propaganda Camps (the so-called public schools). Your above statements also demonstrate a strong delusion about a supposed soon collapse of Christianity. What will collapse is this immoral secular Federal Politburo and the secular degenerate society in America.
I am amused that you are advertising (you provided a link) a book by a woman who earns a “living” by peddling false, recycled copycat theories. I see that you have been deceived to accept her nonsense. Christians have refuted over and over again the atheistic fantasies and delusions about a purported link between the God-breathed New Testament Scriptures and the fairy tales of the pagans. There is absolutely no link between Jesus Christ and the false pagan gods. Evidently, you’re another follower of “Acharya S” and her pseudo-scholarship. According to her first conspiratorial book, Christianity was invented by Jews and pagan Masons to “serve as a one-world religion for the Roman Empire. This religion would be a collage of all of the other world religions and combined with astrology.” http://www.answeringinfidels.com/answering-skeptics/answering-acharya-s/a-refutation-of-archary-ss-book-the-christ-conspiracy-pt-1.html.
Ha! Ha! Ha! This woman is no ground-breaking scholar! She is a militant atheist propagandist who has worked for at least one atheist organization (which was founded by a anti-Christ Jew named Paul Kurtz). Pushing this rubbish in a Christian Kinist blog will accomplish nothing for your erroneous atheistic assumptions.
Atheism is irrational and worthless because, among many other errors, it appeals to authority, it is self-contradictory, begs the question, and it is spiritually and morally bankrupt. Atheism cannot account for the laws of logic, moral Law, and other immaterial, invariant, and universal laws and concepts. Atheism is highly arbitrary in many of its practices. In an atheist universe, its “Different strokes for different folks”. So who cares if a person murders another person in an Atheistic world. For the values that the murderer has chosen for himself are not contrary with his actions. If naturalism and scientism are true, there is no moral outrage if one bag of protoplasm “murders” another bag of protoplasm. In a godless universe, there isn’t a transcendent holy Law which reflects the will of a transcendent, eternal, holy God who determines good and evil. As a result of its moral blindness, Atheism is a great danger to all of mankind. As the Christian brethren know, Atheistic Communism slaughtered 100,000,000 people (many of them professing Christians) in the 20th Century alone! What barbarism! Not to mention, 30,000,000 others who died as a result of the wars that Atheistic Communism caused. Further, the fairy tale of atheism teaches that all of reality (and of course atheists differ on what reality is) came about from nothing! Ha! Ha! Ha! Atheism is an absurd superstition masquerading as the standard bearer of freedom, intellectualism, and science. No wonder the Scripture teaches: “The fool has said in his heart, there is no God.”
Well, I will stop here. The admin doesnt want this blog to be turned into a Christian vs. irrational Atheists debate site.
No, Fr John. I would hope my remarks do not go anywhere near R Orthodox Church. I am not saying “that the people who became Russian Orthodox…are ethnically related to those of the likes of the ADL, the JDL…”
I think someone would have to work very hard to construe my statement in this way.
I was speaking ethnographically about THAT area of the Caucasus that is quite frankly a mine field. What knowledge I have in the matter comes from Benjamin Freedman’s speech where he touches very briefly upon the ethnic origin of the Khazarim. He describes them as a Finno Turkish people and delineates their empire at the height of its power as encompassing S Russia, E Ukraine in E Europe, Georgia, the Crimea also in E Europe. From my own studies I remember the term Rus itself derives from the Finnish language. The pagan Finnish rune singers fascinated J.R.R. Tolkien and he wrote a lot of monographs on it.
Among the Khazarim, there are Jews, Muslims and Christians. And I think I have seen the Lord’s Prayer in that language on the net.
I think it is popularly known that there are Black Russians of Southern Russia and White Russians or Belarus. As far as I know, among the Belarus in Eastern Europe there are Roman Catholics and Catholics of the Uniate Rite in Latvia, Lithuiannia, Estonia, there are the Russian Orthodox of Russia, of course and the Ukrainian Orthodox and Uniate Rite Catholics of the Ukraine. And there were also Roman Catholics in Russia. Fr Pranitis who translated the Talmud into Latin was martyred during the Bolshevik Revolution.
I think the most beautiful Christian art in the entire world come from the Kievan schools: Ukranian Orthodox and Catholic Uniate.
I think that the Franciscan accounts of their mission to Khazaria makes for fascinating reading and some amazing glimpses of that pagan culture. By all accounts the Franciscans wasted their time, as the Khazarian Khagan was not interested in discussing religion or spiritual matters. Most of his subjects were Jewish, but he himself was a pagan who worshipped the devil as the devil. And he was married to about 10 Jewesses. In this amazing scene from the Franciscan accounts you have the Khagan sitting there in his tent telling the Franciscan friars about all his personal woes. It is really very funny. I mean here is a man who has no need for the ‘angel of light’ pose of satan, he worships Satan as the devil and his biggest problem is his marital relations with the Jewesses who boss him around.
I agree with you about the novus ordo sect currently in occupation of the Roman Catholic infrastructure worldwide and the modern anti-papacy. The Chair of Peter was overthrown in Rome in 1958. The Roman Catholic Church in communion with the true papacy – the Successors of Pope Gregory XVII – is the Church in Eclipse. I am a member of that communion. I think it is alarming that anti-pope Benedict and Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople are working toward ecumenical relations. As far as I am concerned, I hope God blesses and keeps the Orthodox (and all the Protestants for that matter) as far away from Benedict as possible. And I am sure he will be back in the U.S. of A. touting the Noachide laws before you can say apostate. He is very busy bee is that Benedict with all his rabbi pals in the Sanhedrin.
“It is by reason of the type of blasephmous denigrations of the Lord Jesus Christ you are wont to state on this blog, that the Prince of the Host, St Michael, prostrated himself upon the earth at the Serra da Aire in 1916 and taught the shepherd children of the Serra (all under the age of 12 yrs) to console their God by praying as he asked:
Holy, Holy, Holy. Most Holy Trinity Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I offer You the most precious Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ present in all the tabernacles of the earth in reparation for the sacrileges, outrages and indifference by which He Himself is offended. And through the infinite merits of His Most Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of you the conversion of poor sinners.
And yes, these completely unschooled children aged 11, 9 and 7 were able to learn this prayer and repeat it for their parish priest, who was astounded. As indeed was the entire Catholic world, for no matter how you look at it – it is theologically perfect, as are all the prayers of the Angels – only a few of which we know from the Bible.
Blaspheme our Lord again, Hohenzollern, and I guarantee….”
Uh huh. Right. Ok, then…moving right along…
Oscar,
First of all, I’m not an atheist. Second of all, yes I do find that D.M. Murdock aka Acharya S makes some very compelling observations, but she is far from the first or only free-thinker to shine a glaring spotlight on the falsity of Christian claims. Ha! ha! ha! all you like but, despite your strident assertions, never has the Mythicist case been refuted. Ever. Because it is irrefutable.
What we seem to be dealing with here is in all probability the biggest case of Stockholm Syndrome ever recorded. I understand that you naturally don’t LIKE many of the things I’ve said, but I haven’t used foul language or “spoken against” any particular figure within your religious mythos, other than to point out that it, and they, are largely just that- mythical and allegorical as opposed to concretely historical.
I guess it’s ok with people like you if people like me reject the idea that the Bible is the literally-true Word of God, as long as we shut up and never mention it, and for a long time that’s how it worked, because if we did we ran the real risk of being completely ostracized, if we were lucky, or tortured and executed if we weren’t. But those days are over and they’re not coming back. You can’t just hide out in your own little, insular world and expect not to be confronted with the truth anymore, so for the sake of your own blood-pressure, you should try to adjust to the times, for they are a changin’.
Besides, it’s you guys who tell the rest of us that if we don’t believe in your religion we’re condemned to burn in Hell for eternity, so shouldn’t we really find that upsetting? Shouldn’t we be the ones making charges of vulgarity, blasphemy etc.? You’ve got everything all out of whack. The burden of proof isn’t on the non-religious, it’s on y’all. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence or arguments, at the least. None is forthcoming. Christians are amusing because if you, through use of your mental faculties and critical reasoning, conclude they’re peddling the Truth and adopt their religion, then you’re a swell guy, but God help you if you find the product to be riddled with holes and fatally flawed.
“As far as I am concerned, I hope God blesses and keeps the Orthodox (and all the Protestants for that matter) as far away from Benedict as possible. And I am sure he will be back in the U.S. of A. touting the Noachide laws before you can say apostate. He is very busy bee is that Benedict with all his rabbi pals in the Sanhedrin.”
I would say we’re on the same track….
Hohenzollern,
Once again, (whatever your ethnicity) please learn what Dante called the ‘virtous paganism’ of your European ancestors. Hel was the ‘goddess’ of the cauldron of impious souls which were consigned to the flames. All virtuous pagans fear with salutory fear – the cauldron of Hel.
Gehenna which the Christians translated as the Hell of Spiritual fire (after our Lord’s parable) is the existence of those who refuse to know God the Creator or ackowledge Christ – the Son of God and Son of man in his Evangel, in the faith He established in His Church and refuse the Holy Spirit.
In the Judgement, these poor souls will hear the Divine sentence: “Depart from Me.” They will hear these dread words from the One by Whom and for Whom all things exist. The torment of the fires of that existence to which they depart is for the fallen Angels who have rejected and hated our Lord to His face; it is for souls who have rejected the sacrifice of our Lord in his Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity for their sins; it is for the souls who have refused the Divine call, the Divine love, the Divine desire, yet is actually a mercy oblating the souls’ anguish at the Divine rejection whch ratifies their own choice.
Rejection and Heresy are choices of the human will. These things have no existence in their own right.
When our Lady at Fatima opened her hands, she showed to the three shepherd children of the Serra the vision of the Eschaton or Last Things for the last times of the world which would scoff at the holy faith. One of the things she showed them is the Hell of Fire. She said: “You have seen Hell were the souls of poor sinners go. It is to prevent them that our Lord desires to establish upon earth the devotion to my Immaculate Heart” – the sanctuary of faith when the Church would be in Eclipse; when the sacramental life of the Church would be extinguished.
Please get a hold of this, Hohenzollern. This is the Heart of the God Bearer which kept “all these things and pondered them.” This is the Heart which magnifies our Lord above all – above all creation and above all Angels. This is the refuge and sanctuary which our Lord has opened for us in the last times of the world – when the ordinary means of grace that our Lord positively wills for his Church is extinguished because of the power of anti-Christ. I refer specifically to the Most Blessed Sacrament of the altar which is denied to most.
As I have said in many posts – the paganism of the Europeans was that good and fertile ground which could yield fruit a hundred fold. That we, the Europeans, became the Christ bearing race, the Christopher, as nation after European nation converted to the Evangel; it is not of us – lest any should boast. It was a work of Grace upon that good and fertile ground of European paganism. It was a work of Grace for those upon whom the Europeans would labour and expend for the sake of the Evangel – those nations whose culture was much harder, more stoney and barren than ours.
The Sacred Heart of our Lord desires these nations with great desire. And we, Europeans, are the ones who must labour for them even in the last times of the world.
“When our Lady at Fatima opened her hands,….
The Sacred Heart of our Lord desires these nations with great desire….
That we, the Europeans, became the Christ bearing race, the Christopher, as nation after European nation converted to the Evangel; it is not of us – lest any should boast. It was a work of Grace upon that good and fertile ground of European paganism……”
Here, Lynda, is where we DO part ways. First off, as I have noted of a recent blogger whose posts I once enjoyed greatly, http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/speaking-the-truth-in-love/
‘May I point out that RC Dogma, martyrology, and philosophy are totally against the Orthodox phronema? (as well as the Calvinist/Protestant Weltanschauung!) May I point out that numberless synods, Patriarchs, Bishops, Priests, Canons, and local synods have joined the anathemas against the Roman Church, over the CENTURIES?
As I noted from an excellent article over at http://www.orthodoxinfo.com, “Believing, as we do, that the Orthodox Church Is the Church, wherein is to be found the fullness of the Catholic Faith—that is, the Apostolic Faith in all its purity and wholeness—there can be no question of accepting anything contrary to Orthodox teaching and practice. This must immediately render suspect any shrine or apparition involving the dogma of the Immaculate Conception or encouraging the un-Orthodox cult of devotion to parts of the body—the hearts of Jesus and Mary. (In seventeenth century France, there had even been devotion to the Virgin’s left foot and the soles of her shoes.)” – http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/marian_apparitions.aspx?print=ok
I will not belabor that point, except to note for our esteemed Admin, that the reason this writer sees the rise of protestant excess in ‘charismania’ alongside of the various ‘Marian apparitions’ in Roman Catholi-’schim’, is that it is intimately tied to…. yes; The filioque.
‘Nothing like this happened in the East. Rooted soundly and soberly in the solid theology of Orthodoxy, and spiritually nourished by a vernacular liturgy, the Lord’s Mother fitted naturally into her rightful place in a perfectly balanced and harmonious whole. The Western distortion of the doctrine of the Holy Trinity resulting from the Filioque with its (almost unintentional) down-grading of the Holy Spirit…’
As to the last comment you made, Lynda, I strenuously disagree. Coming as you do, (from a Thomistic bent) the concept of ‘free will’ is so strong, as to render any predestinating act of God superfluous- which is, of course, unbiblical. But, (as a former Calvinist) I clearly see the conversion of the White Race of Europe to be THE fulfillment of that phrase in St. Paul’s writings, wherein he says, “According as he hath chosen US in him before the FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, that WE should be holy and without blame before him in love; having PREDESTINATED US unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the Good Pleasure of HIS will.” [Eph. 1:4ff.]
A post sent to me some time back I think will put to rest any attempts to find an ‘all men’ in that phrase ‘adoption as sons.’
http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/the-heresy-of-adoption/
Sincerely, Lynda, the Church of Rome’s errors go much further back than Vatican II. It only took me twenty years to figure it out. I’m just passing on what I have found, FYI.
Okay, let’s keep the comment text to a minimum and not get into doctrinal fights. That’s what fellowship dinners are for. The comments should be brief and based on one or more of the topics discussed in the post above.
Fr John,
The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church parted company at the Council of Florence. It is pointless to reiterate here the anathemas that these two have leveled at each ofther over the centuries.
I do not accept that Orthodoxy has the ‘fullness of the Catholic faith.” In the above post, as an Orthodox, you again deny on this website our Lord’s great commission (the Catholic Mark): “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you” (Mathew 28:18-20. This passage does not refer to White Europeans exclusively as you would have us to believe – in that only Whites may receive adoption as ‘sons’ – quoting Eph 1:4 in support of your error.
Denying Our Lord’s words and twisting them in support of this racially supremacist position is heresy. And I think this does concern those who are reading these posts and comments and writing here.
The Roman Catholic doctrine on the Sacred Heart of Our Lord (his Kingship) and the Immaculate Heart of Our Lady (the Arc of His Covenant) are not idolatries of body parts. A statement like that takes not thought of either scripture and Patristics – especially the writings of the Fathers on Our Lord as the Last Adam (1 Cor 15:45-50). These same Fathers also discoursed most eloquently upon our Lady as the New Eve in her role as God Bearer and mother of the members of Christ. This is the new creation of the God-man race – those from all nations who would receive the Evangel, be born of baptism and of Spirit, commune in the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ.
The writings of the Fathers (venerated by both Christian East and West) together with scripture as well as events in the lives of saints are the foundations of these doctrines of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
This is not a devotion to ‘body parts’. This is a devotion to Our Lord’s Kingship. As for the Immaculate, the scroll of the Apocalypse is to be read as a continuous writing front and back. Therefore the following is to be read without chapter breaks:
“Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun..”
These passages equate the Arc of the Covenant in heaven with the Woman clothed with the sun.
When this portent was revealed upon earth to the Church in time – it was not the Church that reported it, it was the secular press. The event that the Church would later investigate and declare ‘Signum Magnum’ was reported to the world by the Masonic, secular press on page one – all national papers in Lisbon Oct 13 – 14, 1917. This is matter of historical record. Even the New York Times reported this event – on the last page after the baseball scores.
The Church, however, maintained a very careful prudence and reserve about it for years and conducted a most thorough investigation.
On your website, The White Christ you have many times quoted Fr Seraphim Rose. “In the end all churches will serve antichrist.” However, you fail to report any plan the Almighty who knows the end from the beginning might actually have for the Christian faithful to persevere in the saving faith when all the churches serve antichrist, when sacramental life of the Church is extinguished, when the oblation and the holy sacrifice are trampled, when the ordinary means of grace for salvation are either extinguished or highly compromised by the Great Apostasy and confusion reigns supreme.
For those who know Catholic doctrine, however, we know that Divine Providence did not fail to make provision for the Christian faithful during the ‘hour of the power of darkness’. A refuge was prepared from the beginning. And that refuge is the Arc of the Covenant, the Woman clothed with the sun of Apoc 12:1.
At Fatima, the Lord worked a miracle of the sun that was reported internationally in order to ratify the testament of the Woman Clothed with the Sun, a testament that would be for the time when the Church would be in eclipse [when 'all churches would serve antichrist']. At that time, Our Lady declared to the faithful through the children of the Serra that Our Lord had opened to the faithful the sanctuary of devotion to her Immaculate Heart. At this time, Our Lord himself grants to the faithful the sublime refuge in the Arc of His Covenant, in the Immaculate Heart magnifying our Lord above all (Luke 1:46) and pondering the mysteries of his Incarnation in her Heart – the mysteries of faith. (Luke 2:19)
You might think this is a stupid picture, Fr John, but your dismissal of our Lord’s great and public miracle of the sun and your denigration of our Lady’s Immaculate Heart hinders those who are seeking to persevere in the holy faith (even in whatever remnants they have been able to salvage) at the time of the Great Apostasy.
The Church is in eclipse. The orthodox have no plan for anyone at this time except to keep harping on all the ‘anti Romanist’ and ‘anti-papist’ cannards.
Admin- do you not agree that doctrine is irrevocably tied to philosophy… or in the words of the pre-schism Church, ‘lex orandi, lex credendi’?
I am merely pointing out that the West’s rationalist, filioquist philosophy is at the root of ALL the subsequent problems the West is suffering from…..
And you relegate it to ‘doctrinal fights.’ If you told Lynda not to mention the Sacred Heart, Fatima, or Thomistic philosophy at the same time as you tell me to ‘cool my jets’ I could believe you more whole-heartedly.
But if foolhardiness is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result, in the realms of philosophy, don’t you think we’ve given filioquist/Enlightenment/Thomist thought, more than ample time to prove its’ validity???
I’m saying that both of you need to cool it. No one wants to see the words “filioquist” or “Fatima” again. These could be very interesting subjects, I’m sure, but they have nothing to do with what is being put up for discussion here. More importantly, we’re not going to sort out thousands of years of Christian disputes on this humble blog; although if we did, we would all be famous. Hmm, I’m thinking it over. No, we just can’t do it.