I assure you that I am not a Bolshevik, although I might plead guilty to typically feminine – and by that I do not mean setting people (men) against each other for fun. I mean that if you were to meet me personally you would meet a typical old fashioned Grandmother. And I would consider most Grandmothers in my circle are typically old fashioned and feminine. We also have our opinions and we do state them.

But what I most truly am is a Roman Catholic who opposes the antipapacy currently seated in Rome and its partnership with the Sanhedrin. As I work at my own business, I can blog during my coffee breaks and this gives me the opportunity to speak (particularly with Catholics) all over the world and help them with the religious delusional system that is emanating from Benedict and his fellow rabbis who are promoting the Noachide laws for Western nations. On this subject, I have a great deal to say, the Apostolic admonition for women to be silent notwithstanding.

I am not with a ‘Trad’ congregation. I fundamentally agree with CWNY who perceives these as “half-way” houses. I really get this (because I lived it).

When I read your usual offering on this thread, I saw that the bloggers were not buying it (and why), I said to myself – ‘well, good they Get It over at SWB’. But instead of disputing this issue with the SWB bloggers in scripture, patristics and sensus fidelium, you proceeded to cite one of CWNY key metaphors, (a metaphor that – point of fact – opens up this entire issue) as an illustration of your position. You remarked that the import of the “halfway house” placed you and CWNY were on the same page in this debate.

Now, CWNY does not need me to blog in and defend his position. But the blogroll does need to hear, I think, that people read the posts of SWB and their associates with more appreciation and understanding than they might realize. And the bloggers are not going to sit while “half-way house” gets warped out of the context in which CWNY placed it AND applied against Our Lord’s words:

“Going therefore, teach ye all nations (ethnos); baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Ghost” Matt 28:19

Ethnos means: nation, Gentiles, heathen, people. And scripture uses it in all these senses.

I have argued this point with you on your weblog and pointed out on numerous occasions that your definition of ‘all nations’ as the oikoumene of the European nations is false. The oikoumene is the whole world of all nations – pan ethne. Indeed your argument makes Our Lord’s own words to none effect. You didn’t get it then; you don’t get it now.

I am not “raging at you” but I take this opportunity to reinterate a point upon which your eternal salvation may well depend, as I am banned (for the benefit of SWB) -from commenting on your weblog. But, then, I am also banned from the local novus ordo church from pointing out that ‘inclusion’ of prayers from the Talmud does not belong in the Catholic liturgy; that we don’t do liturgical dancers and Wiccan nuns and speak about Christ as ‘our Sofia’ and the Holy Trinity as ‘Our Mother / Father God’ – etc. Don’t worry, you are not alone in being annoyed at my well-intentioned comments. And, for my part, I enjoy being banned, because it gives me more free time to blog and watch YouTube.

BTW loved the one about the two Arab teenagers who put two camels in Dad’s car and were filming it on phonecam. Dad (Abdul) got a call at work and was told, ‘Do you know your kids have put two camels in your car and have posted the video on the NET? It’s getting a million hits every 5 minutes.” Loved the Two Angry Camels in a Car video. Oh the blessings of being banned from the blogs and the novus ordo.

Anyway, I digress.

But where we really butted heads, Fr John, was on Brother Nathaneael’s Real Zionist News Comment section. The Orthodox Chinese Brothers had written in. YOUR fellow Orthodox KathJulianne and Stav were assisting them with comments and links. And then you took this opportunity to write in with your theories about the non-European races and non-Adamic hominids and what not. The Orthodox are not going to correct you because you are an Orthodox priest, Brother Nathaneael is out of town to process the Cross to the ADL, the threads on his website are melting down and his moderators are at a loss, so the Catholics (one of whom was myself) landed on you for your comments which were HIGHLY OFFENSIVE to your fellow Orthodox Chinese brothers.

So, maybe I did come across as ‘raging’ at you. It was not my intention. My temper does get away from me sometimes and I apologize. But I have not budged from my opinion and betcha anything neither have you. When God created woman -what was He thinking?

However, we will retract this statement if you will agree to send us a free copy of your revised and footnoted Book of Life as soon as it is published.

Which is astounding. Lynda has raged against me at my blog, out of the blue, accusing me of stating things Orthodoxy does not state (even when I quote source, and multiple authors) Now, if Lynda IS ‘liking this site very much,’ this is even more confusing, if Lynda is Orthodox (as she has inferred to me from perusal of my blog). As the Orthodox (as an ethnic exclusionary club, too often) view SWB’s Calvinism (indeed, ALL calvinism) to be heretical, with no ifs, ands, or buts, then either Lynda is confused about her patristic faith, or is being…shall I say, ‘typically feminine’.

From my own pov, at least I have seen, have tried to draw out, and infer to my readers that Calvinists (who, by and large, built America, as our mutual history shows) are owed a great debt from the Byzantines out there, who were ‘johnny-cum-latelies’ when it came to America. I have tried to walk a middle way, while pointing out to evangelicals the trap filioquism entails, and while mentioning to Orthodox the fact that common grace exists, even among the West’s most augustinian denomination.

So, either Lynda is playing both sides against the middle (a very bolshevik tactic) -as I owe much of my insights to both RJ Rushdoony as well as David Chilton- (and to which I often point out, and have admitted); or she still misguidedly assumes the magnanimity of Western Man (which COULD have been offered as a noble gesture, via our common altruism and our knowledge of our history, as the inhabitants of a dwindling and increasingly impotent Christendom, (as late as the 1970′s) still prevails in the West, without fear of either being rebuffed, or our own race becoming extinct.

Sad to say, I no longer believe in either. With the election of Obama, the race hatred blacks have for Whitey -that has long simmered, or been made to simmer, since the Watts riots of the 1960′s- has boiled over time after time; and each incidence has increased in bestiality, extent, and lawlessness. It was this site that brought to my mind the realities of Christian White FOLK trying to help other Christian Whitefolk, and how all familial, particularist attempts at charity, were being ‘stopped at the border,’ as it were, by our own government, in the Katrina aftermath. It was quoting statistics here and at LG, in matters as varied as IQ, national wealth, crime stats, religious attributes etc. from authors like Dabney, Rushton, Vanhanen and Lynn, Taylor’s ‘the Color of Crime,’ Rushdoony, and a whole host of other, older authors that led me to see whether or not there was a ‘pattern in the heavenlies,’ that is to be expected to be followed on this earth, by those who are called Christians.

What at first was a trumpet blast of reality at this site, has petered out to an ‘uncertain sound’ that clearly is as brainwashed in its’ efforts to ‘have one’s cake and eat it, too,’ as anything the liberal churches could have devised. Surely, God can do whatever He wants with whatever racial group on earth that was created. Never has that possibility been excluded on my part. What I HAVE said, however, is that the covenant that was established at Calvary, and ratified at Pentecost, is based on the OT paradigm, which was racial, exclusionary, and strongly familial. If the Incarnation means anything, (and I believe it does) then the act of Incarnation is the physical equivalent of ‘being spoken to’ in these last times’, that Hebrews 1:2 alludes to. To deny that the Incarnation is of the race of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is to be outright Docetists. What boggles my mind, is that either Lynda or you folks, (I can’t tell which) seem to think that is ok……

Christ’s rebuke to the Pharisees on the subject of genealogical pride is stern and fair and true. As a warning to all vain geneologies and racial supremacies – of which the Talmud is chief, it will always stand. But I do not read any of your mainstream website posts that invoke it. Cambria’s discourses on race do not invoke it.

Even so, the ‘sons from rocks’ idea does not really strike me as the Divine signature. Wine from water – yes; life from the dead – yes; sons from rocks – no.

What you perceive and have expressed as the passing of the white race, I perceive as a great river finding an artesian course when it has come down from the heights, lost its momentum and become mired in the shallows of the plains and river meandows. There it convolutes into many channels and wanders off into sinkholes and marshes. But a single stream of such a river will run true, it will plunge into the earth, becoming a hidden stream purifying its waters and regaining its currents. When it again breaks into view it will rise in many springs in places entirely unlikely and surge into a new course. Definitely the type of ‘white plume’ moment that Cambria likes to write about from the perspective of the literary and cultural heritage of Europe.

I too like this type of thing very much, although my interest focuses more narrowly on the history of the Sacred Heart event beginning in France 100 years before the Great Revolution of 1789. This event has generated many, I guess you would call these ‘white kerchief’ events in history that speak to me of that artesian stream purifying its waters, gathering its forces. And of course this history is still unfolding.

I like your site very much, Admin and I read it often.

Lynda

It’s comforting to know that there are sensible White folks like yourself in Australia.

They do not lend themselves to being mined for nuggets to be prized out and then embedded in mere theories. They exist as a single body of work.

This is not from Cambria – this idea that all men came from Adam constitutes merely a half-way house Christianity because it severs the European from the faith.

The term “half way house Christianity” comes from the essays Cambria posted on June 18, 2006. It has nothing to do with European man alone as Adamic creation or the non Adamic identity of other races. It has everything to do with the loss of new creation in Christ that was European man and the post Christian reality.

For Cambria, the white European race is a unique re-creation in Christ.

In “The Unholy Alliance” – June 18, 06 – Cambria writes of European man as “the only race of people that accepted Christianity in depth and breadth – meaning that most whites were Christians – and it penetrated deeply into many. Certainly other races had Christians among them but not to the extent of the white race.”

It is the loss of this race, itself, as new creation that is the subject of the “half way house” metaphor for churches as memorials to this loss. It was this race (European man) that responded historically to the Evangel not as individuals or families or tribes – but as entire nations. European man as a race was new creation in Christ and this Europe is now lost. That is what Cambria mourns. He does not occupy himself with the question of whether the nations of other races could or could not have responded to the Evangel in this way; or the impossibility (in theory) of a Christian Africa, for example, comprised of Christian nations of Bantus, Hottentots, Zulus, etc. He is not elaborating some theory to explain why – as ‘non-Adamic races’ – the nations of people were not called or elect anyway.

Cambria deals only with the historic reality that European man, alone of all the nations responded to the Evangel as a race. And this new creation in Christ (a racial new creation) attained both cultural expression and polity in the European land mass. Why (in theory) Africa, MezoAmerica or Asian man did not attain this, really does not come into Cambria’s half way house metaphor except indirectly.

What interests Cambria is the many facets of the historical reality that was Christian Europe. He is interested in the present consequences of the loss of that reality. In his essay “The Unholy Alliance” he looks at the difference between the coloured barbarians and the post Christian barbarians. Although the barbarians are at the gate, he perceives that the post Christian barbarians are the darker continent.

“The post Christian barbarians are technocratic barbarians. Whereas Aztecs tore out the hearts of human adults and children in public ceremonies; post Christians tear out the hearts of human infants behind closed laboratory doors.” (June 18, 06)

In terms of race, Cambria does not perceive that racial differences are differences in kind: i.e. the European, Adamic race as distinct from the African hominid or non Adamic race. He perceives that it was this penetration of the Christian faith into European man and the nations of European man that has elevated European man to a unique difference in kind. He understands this penetration at the level of race; the God-man race. And the issue of this historical reality, for Cambria, is rule.

“The glory of European civilization was that for a time Satanic principles did not rule it.” “The Lost Thread” June 2006

“The coloured races, whether Aztec or African have a simple pagan view of race: ‘my race shall conquer and subjugate all other races’. The white man, when he was Christian had a different view: ‘my race must conquer and then rule benevolently, because without white rule, mankind will descend into darkness.’ “Not a Proposition II” June 18, 06

He is against the secular, racemixing, porn-loving society as a race-mixing alliance that will extinguish the only race that ever (as a race) inherited the royal blood of the New Covenant. He does not deny that individuals, families, tribes of other races inherited it; but alone of the races of man, Europe as Europe inherited it. In Cambria’s imagination, the post Christian modern society takes on the dimensions of a wind swept house in a racial sense.

This is the half-way house according to Cambria. This half-way house is not a Christian Europe that got it wrong in the begining according to some theory of Divine Election (European man alone is Adamic man). The half way house appears in the historical context of European man’s return to paganism. Yet “The white man’s return to Baal has not made him happy”…”this is why the Christian churches have not completely disappeared. They exist as halfway houses for the [post Christian] white man.” (Sunday June 18, 2006) And he finds these half-way houses as barren as the windswept house of our Lord’s parable. Which raises the question: And to this half-way house, what will come to occupy it?

Sigh, beating a dead horse, you are.

What we know today is applicable to determining the will of God, if only because how we have been TRAINED via the Marxist/Jewish/Talmuddied indoctrination via our print and TV media, via the unrelenting barrage on our consciousnesses since Boas, and the unending propaganda that the non-European, the non-white, the non-elect (however you want to read that) are now all the fit recipients of God’s favor…. when, up until, say 1950, such a POV was in the MINORITY (pun intended) among all those of Christendom.

I have learned from this site and LG before her, that Americans and Europeans once thought DIFFERENTLY than we do now, and have spent a long time trying to figure out WHY. Once I did, I realized that one can turn the tables (geologic, scientific, anthropological) using the SAME evidence that THEY mounted to buttress THEIR faulty, lying positions, to buttress the OLDER view of Christendom. Perhaps my insights in this regard on the filioque, and how it has blinded the eyes of the West, ARE my own insights. (though I am merely pointing out what Oxford educated philosophers have stated, and simply applied those insights to the present situation)

I am loathe to say, “Yes, I alone have these insights,’ simply because my tradition looks askance at those who say, ‘I alone have the truth.’ But then, I suppose they said the same of Luther, Calvin, and Cranmer at the time those men lived. I cannot help finding these things out, and clearly the comments over at my blog state that others have been thinking the same things.

I merely point out the dichotomy of saying that if there is such a thing as a kinist position, and then saying that all are welcome at the altar, it seems schizophrenic to mention the former, when you follow the world’s siren song, in being in agreement with the latter. That position seems to deny the Elect nation status that is suffused throughout the ENTIRE OT, and was never abrogated by Christ in the NT, even in the Epistles of St. Paul, Peter, or James.

Oh, I grant you that you can READ INTO the pages of the NT a ‘universalist’ view of salvation ‘to all nations’, ‘the whole world’ etc. if one is predisposed to view that as normative…and in this ‘all one race, the human race’ era, such a view seems almost ‘state-approved dogma.’ But that doesn’t mean that is what the AUTHORS meant, who wrote same under the guidance of the H.S. And it also does not mean that THAT is how the inhabitants of Europe viewed Christendom themselves, or how they actually practiced it, in the eras before Marx and Lincoln.

We’re going to need a whole lotta “come back” power when Whites become a minority, in America. Finding such power in Osteen’s feel-good Church, is about as likely as reading the answer in a fortune cookie.

Again, I agree with you that it is no more certain that Whites came from Africa than it is that a 35,000 year old Al Sharpton was the first European. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with your theories or with collating Weltanschauungs or blanching asparagus. The problem is with going beyond this and stating that your beliefs are now suddenly imperative for the body of Christ. This is stunning:

“You state that the ‘hidden things belong to God alone.’ I concur. But so much of this is now NOT hidden, that to hide one’s head in the sand, and NOT look objectively at history, science, anthropology, DNA research, etc. is almost heretical, if not intellectually criminal.”

Amazing. So Christians got along for ages, but now we discover that theirs was a halfway house Christianity because science has made what they believed heretical, if not criminal. If this is not said on your own authority then I’d like to know whose.

Of course, anyone can be wrong. We’re wrong about many things and so were our forefathers. This is why theory is not the same as essential doctrine. What we believe about the age of the earth is not to be compared to the fact that Christ died to atone for our sins. Anyway, there you have it.

I never said any such thing. I DO believe that Adam was the first ‘Man.’ I merely deny that status to those not of Adam’s line, as the anthropological and scientific record is coming to show. That was why my fascination with Schroeder. He (along with the other authors Holzmann mentioned in his blog entries) show that the ‘Out of Africa’ scenario Leakey et al. posited a mere forty years ago, along with the ‘Evolutionary Tree’ showing how Homo Sapiens Sapiens ‘evolved’ from Australopithecus, via Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon to US, is now no longer tenable. That’s my point. Schroeder does all this in passing in his book, but then attributes the ‘divine status’ of neshama to Jews alone, as the Talmudics have long done.

And you clearly misunderstand ME, in that I am pointing out these things to REFUTE Ham et al, who have too long held to a ‘we alone have the truth’ mentality in matters scientific/creationist.

As to the vulgar statement “You pronounce, entirely on your own authority, that “all” are not welcome to the free gift of salvation because Christ came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And which individuals comprise these hallowed ranks? Just ask Father John,” is a red herring.

I am NOT stating this on my own authority. God forbid. If had read my blog posts over the last two years and more, as I have studiously done with yours (and with the LG site that was your predecessor) you would see that I am actively trying to collate a more authentic Weltanschauung for looking at the lies and subterfuge of the evil ones, whether incarnate or merely demonically spiritual. That THEY say we are descended from apes, and that we are ‘all one race, the human race’ is reason enough to DOUBT the VALIDITY of their statements at face value… but minds benumbed of logic need reasons, and a means to think things through.

You state that the ‘hidden things belong to God alone.’ I concur. But so much of this is now NOT hidden, that to hide one’s head in the sand, and NOT look objectively at history, science, anthropology, DNA research, etc. is almost heretical, if not intellectually criminal. As to the verity of this statement, “You pronounce, entirely on your own authority, that “all” are not welcome to the free gift of salvation because Christ came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. ”

May I point out that it is Our Lord’s Words here. DO you obey them, or the Multicultis? Are you fellows not reformed, and does not your own TULIP teach unconditional ELECTION, that is etched in the heavens for all time. How does my pointing out that the ‘lost sheep of the House of Israel’ means some other race than the Talmudic Khazars become specious, when your own confessional standards note that ‘if you ain’t Dutch, you ain’t much’ to coin a popular distilation of the Reformed position?