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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the so called Caucasian statues are actually the depictions of native Northeast Africans, who tend to have these narrow facial traits. Because of the climate in this region. Its cold during the night and hot during the day time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the so called Caucasian statues are actually the depictions of native Northeast Africans, who tend to have these narrow facial traits. Because of the climate in this region. Its cold during the night and hot during the day time.</p>
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		<title>By: Xx</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-17613</link>
		<dc:creator>Xx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pictures you&#039;ve shown aren&#039;t &quot;negro&quot; are what you claim, they are the Nuba tribe from South of Modern Sudan.

The foundation of ancient Egypt was by Sahara African/ Shahelian tribes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pictures you&#8217;ve shown aren&#8217;t &#8220;negro&#8221; are what you claim, they are the Nuba tribe from South of Modern Sudan.</p>
<p>The foundation of ancient Egypt was by Sahara African/ Shahelian tribes.</p>
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		<title>By: A Kinist Response to Brian Schwertley&#8217;s Accusations of Heresy &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-16667</link>
		<dc:creator>A Kinist Response to Brian Schwertley&#8217;s Accusations of Heresy &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 04:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He also claims that there was intermarriage between Nubians and Egyptians, and that &#8220;Egyptians were predominantly Hamite in their stock.&#8221; Of Joseph&#8217;s wife, he asserts, &#8220;She was a Hamite!&#8221; Is this what you would gather from these pictures? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He also claims that there was intermarriage between Nubians and Egyptians, and that &#8220;Egyptians were predominantly Hamite in their stock.&#8221; Of Joseph&#8217;s wife, he asserts, &#8220;She was a Hamite!&#8221; Is this what you would gather from these pictures? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-13720</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on the whole, KH, but can you be certain that Adam was created 6,000 years ago? If the days were ages, as you say, I don&#039;t think you can. You would also have to assume no gaps at all in the genealogical record, such as Genesis 10, and I think this is dubious. But you could be correct. It&#039;s interesting to ponder and discuss, as long as we don&#039;t become schismatics like Doug Phillips and Ken Ham.

The discussion about &quot;pre-Adamites&quot; widely varies in understanding. We know that creatures such as Neanderthals existed, but they don&#039;t appear to be related to humans. I prefer to think of these creatures as bipedal primates (erect apes) who were not created in God&#039;s image. The YUC is forced to assert that they were &quot;cavemen&quot; who lived after Adam. No one can say whether these creatures successfully copulated with humans, but I see no evidence for it. 

&lt;b&gt;To conclude that some human races living today are descended from these creatures and have no hope of redemption because they are not created in God&#039;s image is to depart from orthodox Christianity.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on the whole, KH, but can you be certain that Adam was created 6,000 years ago? If the days were ages, as you say, I don&#8217;t think you can. You would also have to assume no gaps at all in the genealogical record, such as Genesis 10, and I think this is dubious. But you could be correct. It&#8217;s interesting to ponder and discuss, as long as we don&#8217;t become schismatics like Doug Phillips and Ken Ham.</p>
<p>The discussion about &#8220;pre-Adamites&#8221; widely varies in understanding. We know that creatures such as Neanderthals existed, but they don&#8217;t appear to be related to humans. I prefer to think of these creatures as bipedal primates (erect apes) who were not created in God&#8217;s image. The YUC is forced to assert that they were &#8220;cavemen&#8221; who lived after Adam. No one can say whether these creatures successfully copulated with humans, but I see no evidence for it. </p>
<p><b>To conclude that some human races living today are descended from these creatures and have no hope of redemption because they are not created in God&#8217;s image is to depart from orthodox Christianity.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Kenite Hater</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-13719</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenite Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To understand the Bible one needs to refer to the original Hebrew texts sometimes.

For example the word &#039;day&#039; in the bible stems from the Hebrew word &#039;yome&#039; which does not only mean a physical day (24 hours) but means &#039;age&#039; as well.

In other words &quot;seven earth ages&quot;

As for Cain and his spaceship.....The word earth stems from the Hebrew word &#039;erets&#039; and this word also means &#039;LAND&#039;

Thus not the whole earth was under water, but the whole land.

We know Adam lived 6,000 years ago, because the Bible actually tells us this. Adam&#039;s Hebrew meaning is having the ability to blush red, to be ruddy.

No other race but the white one, can blush red.

We know the earth is ancient, but we also know that God created Adam only 6,000 years ago. Before Adam the earth was already inhabited by pre-Adamites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To understand the Bible one needs to refer to the original Hebrew texts sometimes.</p>
<p>For example the word &#8216;day&#8217; in the bible stems from the Hebrew word &#8216;yome&#8217; which does not only mean a physical day (24 hours) but means &#8216;age&#8217; as well.</p>
<p>In other words &#8220;seven earth ages&#8221;</p>
<p>As for Cain and his spaceship&#8230;..The word earth stems from the Hebrew word &#8216;erets&#8217; and this word also means &#8216;LAND&#8217;</p>
<p>Thus not the whole earth was under water, but the whole land.</p>
<p>We know Adam lived 6,000 years ago, because the Bible actually tells us this. Adam&#8217;s Hebrew meaning is having the ability to blush red, to be ruddy.</p>
<p>No other race but the white one, can blush red.</p>
<p>We know the earth is ancient, but we also know that God created Adam only 6,000 years ago. Before Adam the earth was already inhabited by pre-Adamites.</p>
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		<title>By: Blood Will Tell &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-13661</link>
		<dc:creator>Blood Will Tell &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you missed it in our comment section, you need to see what the Ken Hamites at &#8220;Answers in Genesis&#8221; have done in bowdlerizing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you missed it in our comment section, you need to see what the Ken Hamites at &#8220;Answers in Genesis&#8221; have done in bowdlerizing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-13655</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! That&#039;s one of the most amazing and brazen things I&#039;ve ever read!

What a relief that Ken Ham has come along to correct Charles Spurgeon&#039;s idiosyncrasies. Just think of what a great preacher Spurgeon could have been if he had hired Ham as a writer. Ham even bowdlerizes Spurgeon&#039;s words in the original! He crosses them out!

Oh, I need to sit for a spell. The brazenness of the Infallible Ham is beyond all description.

The commenter is correct that Answers in Genesis accuses Christians who disagree with them of worshiping a different God.

By the way, Rick Saenz is a very talented and interesting person. He&#039;s the one who joined RC Sproul Jr&#039;s church and was then critical of Sproul and moved away after Sproul abused his authority (and church members) to the point that he was defrocked. Now Sproul has joined Doug Wilson&#039;s enterprise and is very openly trying to turn his little mountain town &quot;coffee-colored&quot; through miscegenation. You don&#039;t often come across men as honorable and admirable as Saenz.

I completely agree with his level-headed approach to obstinacy on the creation period:

&quot;Answers in Genesis, along with many others, are insisting that Christians adhere to principles that have barely been articulated, much less submitted to the church for discussion and consideration. It may very well be that those principles are clearly scriptural and will be easily accepted by all.&quot; Or maybe not. And here&#039;s a shocking idea: We might even disagree...and still be fellow Christians. I know, it&#039;s alarming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! That&#8217;s one of the most amazing and brazen things I&#8217;ve ever read!</p>
<p>What a relief that Ken Ham has come along to correct Charles Spurgeon&#8217;s idiosyncrasies. Just think of what a great preacher Spurgeon could have been if he had hired Ham as a writer. Ham even bowdlerizes Spurgeon&#8217;s words in the original! He crosses them out!</p>
<p>Oh, I need to sit for a spell. The brazenness of the Infallible Ham is beyond all description.</p>
<p>The commenter is correct that Answers in Genesis accuses Christians who disagree with them of worshiping a different God.</p>
<p>By the way, Rick Saenz is a very talented and interesting person. He&#8217;s the one who joined RC Sproul Jr&#8217;s church and was then critical of Sproul and moved away after Sproul abused his authority (and church members) to the point that he was defrocked. Now Sproul has joined Doug Wilson&#8217;s enterprise and is very openly trying to turn his little mountain town &#8220;coffee-colored&#8221; through miscegenation. You don&#8217;t often come across men as honorable and admirable as Saenz.</p>
<p>I completely agree with his level-headed approach to obstinacy on the creation period:</p>
<p>&#8220;Answers in Genesis, along with many others, are insisting that Christians adhere to principles that have barely been articulated, much less submitted to the church for discussion and consideration. It may very well be that those principles are clearly scriptural and will be easily accepted by all.&#8221; Or maybe not. And here&#8217;s a shocking idea: We might even disagree&#8230;and still be fellow Christians. I know, it&#8217;s alarming.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheeler MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-13654</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheeler MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Saenz over at Dry Creek Chronicles has pointed out an amazing discussion by some of the Young Earth crowd. Apparently, some folks are even altering CH Spurgeon&#039;s sermons in order to make the revered preacher toe the line with Young Earthers. The link is at http://cumberlandbooks.com/blog/?p=1916</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Saenz over at Dry Creek Chronicles has pointed out an amazing discussion by some of the Young Earth crowd. Apparently, some folks are even altering CH Spurgeon&#8217;s sermons in order to make the revered preacher toe the line with Young Earthers. The link is at <a href="http://cumberlandbooks.com/blog/?p=1916" rel="nofollow">http://cumberlandbooks.com/blog/?p=1916</a></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-13648</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you&#039;ve got our neurons firing, SF. Very interesting.

I think the short answer is that we just don&#039;t know. As is true of many of the details surrounding creation, God chose not to make it very clear to us.

But you&#039;re correct that the Bible does not refer to Noah as the father of all, in the sense that it refers to Adam. It&#039;s our opinion that there appear to be genealogical gaps in Genesis 10, and using the Bible itself as the key to interpreting the Bible, there is no way to make sense of the idea that this chapter is intended to lay out the family tree of every human being who lived after the Flood. Rather, God is telling His covenant story.

Would you agree that Goliath and the sons of Anak were descended from giants (Nephilim) who predated the Flood, and whose line continued (in part) though they were not saved by the ark? We see them in Numbers 13 as well as in the time of David and Samuel. How did they get there if a global Flood destroyed all but 8 Sethites?

Again, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a question that can be definitively answered, but there it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you&#8217;ve got our neurons firing, SF. Very interesting.</p>
<p>I think the short answer is that we just don&#8217;t know. As is true of many of the details surrounding creation, God chose not to make it very clear to us.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re correct that the Bible does not refer to Noah as the father of all, in the sense that it refers to Adam. It&#8217;s our opinion that there appear to be genealogical gaps in Genesis 10, and using the Bible itself as the key to interpreting the Bible, there is no way to make sense of the idea that this chapter is intended to lay out the family tree of every human being who lived after the Flood. Rather, God is telling His covenant story.</p>
<p>Would you agree that Goliath and the sons of Anak were descended from giants (Nephilim) who predated the Flood, and whose line continued (in part) though they were not saved by the ark? We see them in Numbers 13 as well as in the time of David and Samuel. How did they get there if a global Flood destroyed all but 8 Sethites?</p>
<p>Again, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a question that can be definitively answered, but there it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarborough Fayre</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2009/02/a-matter-of-days/#comment-13647</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarborough Fayre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting topic that I have been fascinated with for quite some time.  Understanding the origins of our race is essential to our sense of who we our.  I would like to hear more about the various viewpoints from the authors about their views on the extent of the Flood.  Personally I think their might be some compelling evidence to suggest a local flood including a covenent people.  Some considerations for this viewpoint are that Moses lists the descendants of Cain in Gen. chapter 4 as if they are still living.  Another is that in context chapter 5 seems to be focusing solely on the covenented lineage of Seth.  Other races could have been descended from the other sons and daughters of Adam and Eve.  Thirdly, is the reference to the Nephilim that were on the earth in those days &quot;and also after that&quot; of Gen. 6:4 and Numbers 13:33.  It seems unlikely that this is a casual reference to people who were merely tall.  Also while I do believe that the Bible insists that Adam and Eve are the universal parents of all persons from Eve being the &quot;mother of all living&quot; as well as from Adam&#039;s mention in Romans 5 and 1 Cor. 15, the Bible does not make such assertions about Noah being a universal ancestor of all humans.  It&#039;s generally assumed that this is the case because it is argued that Gen. 10 is a geneology of all people all over the world.  As for the case that flood legends are prominent all over the world, I&#039;m not sure that upon further examination this was found to be as valid of an arguement as it once was.  

Much of what I&#039;ve read on this subject has been from Timothy Martin and his book Beyond Creation Science.  I&#039;m not sure I agree with all of it, but it is interesting and it ties in creation with eschatology.  

One other question that I would pose to the authors of this website is how we should interpret statements in the Old Testament like in Psalm 49:2 which speaks of sons of Adam and sons of men, usually translated low and high or something else.  Is this a redundancy, or something else?  Could it be making a distinction between the covenental people of Adam, and people generally?  Naming a patriarch by his covenental offspring isn&#039;t unusual.  I&#039;m thinking of &quot;in Isaac shall thy seed (Abraham&#039;s) be called&quot; from Romans 9.  Just a few questions that I&#039;ve been pondering over.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting topic that I have been fascinated with for quite some time.  Understanding the origins of our race is essential to our sense of who we our.  I would like to hear more about the various viewpoints from the authors about their views on the extent of the Flood.  Personally I think their might be some compelling evidence to suggest a local flood including a covenent people.  Some considerations for this viewpoint are that Moses lists the descendants of Cain in Gen. chapter 4 as if they are still living.  Another is that in context chapter 5 seems to be focusing solely on the covenented lineage of Seth.  Other races could have been descended from the other sons and daughters of Adam and Eve.  Thirdly, is the reference to the Nephilim that were on the earth in those days &#8220;and also after that&#8221; of Gen. 6:4 and Numbers 13:33.  It seems unlikely that this is a casual reference to people who were merely tall.  Also while I do believe that the Bible insists that Adam and Eve are the universal parents of all persons from Eve being the &#8220;mother of all living&#8221; as well as from Adam&#8217;s mention in Romans 5 and 1 Cor. 15, the Bible does not make such assertions about Noah being a universal ancestor of all humans.  It&#8217;s generally assumed that this is the case because it is argued that Gen. 10 is a geneology of all people all over the world.  As for the case that flood legends are prominent all over the world, I&#8217;m not sure that upon further examination this was found to be as valid of an arguement as it once was.  </p>
<p>Much of what I&#8217;ve read on this subject has been from Timothy Martin and his book Beyond Creation Science.  I&#8217;m not sure I agree with all of it, but it is interesting and it ties in creation with eschatology.  </p>
<p>One other question that I would pose to the authors of this website is how we should interpret statements in the Old Testament like in Psalm 49:2 which speaks of sons of Adam and sons of men, usually translated low and high or something else.  Is this a redundancy, or something else?  Could it be making a distinction between the covenental people of Adam, and people generally?  Naming a patriarch by his covenental offspring isn&#8217;t unusual.  I&#8217;m thinking of &#8220;in Isaac shall thy seed (Abraham&#8217;s) be called&#8221; from Romans 9.  Just a few questions that I&#8217;ve been pondering over.  Thanks.</p>
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