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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-19015</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself, Shotgun.</description>
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		<title>By: Shotgun</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-19014</link>
		<dc:creator>Shotgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d gladly give up &quot;unscientific race-doctrine&quot; if I could, in exchange, have Tolkien&#039;s keen hatred of contemporary, egalitarian society. 

Point of fact: no educated racial-nationalist today (that I know of) holds to the old scientific racialism of the Madison Grant sort.  Their ideals have grown along with the complexities of popular evolutionary myths. 

So, your association of this blog with Tolkien&#039;s &quot;pernicious and unscientific race-doctrines&quot; is what we educated Europeans call a: &quot;straw-man caricature.&quot; 

The heart of S/W/B and the heart of Tolkien are closely aligned.  

Your ilk, on the other-hand, (if I&#039;m in right in suspecting you to be an outraged modernist) are closer to the men of the South who betrayed their oaths to Gondor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d gladly give up &#8220;unscientific race-doctrine&#8221; if I could, in exchange, have Tolkien&#8217;s keen hatred of contemporary, egalitarian society. </p>
<p>Point of fact: no educated racial-nationalist today (that I know of) holds to the old scientific racialism of the Madison Grant sort.  Their ideals have grown along with the complexities of popular evolutionary myths. </p>
<p>So, your association of this blog with Tolkien&#8217;s &#8220;pernicious and unscientific race-doctrines&#8221; is what we educated Europeans call a: &#8220;straw-man caricature.&#8221; </p>
<p>The heart of S/W/B and the heart of Tolkien are closely aligned.  </p>
<p>Your ilk, on the other-hand, (if I&#8217;m in right in suspecting you to be an outraged modernist) are closer to the men of the South who betrayed their oaths to Gondor.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicious</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-19010</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t ever equate anything Tolkien did with your bull. He had the anemone in mind. English flower. Tolkien was a linguist and lover of all cultures! Direct quote: &quot;I should regret giving any colour to the notion that I subscribed to the wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t ever equate anything Tolkien did with your bull. He had the anemone in mind. English flower. Tolkien was a linguist and lover of all cultures! Direct quote: &#8220;I should regret giving any colour to the notion that I subscribed to the wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Supreme</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-13663</link>
		<dc:creator>Supreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You f---- retard people. Grow up. Race doesn&#039;t exist! There is no genetic, cellular or blood foundations for human diversity. Race exists only as a concept... on the minds of small and idiot people,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You f&#8212;- retard people. Grow up. Race doesn&#8217;t exist! There is no genetic, cellular or blood foundations for human diversity. Race exists only as a concept&#8230; on the minds of small and idiot people,</p>
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		<title>By: Kith and Kin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-13330</link>
		<dc:creator>Kith and Kin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting analogy!</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-13306</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The great white races owe their success to the perfection of their nervous system — a nervous system which, although very delicate and excitable, can, however, be disciplined.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Quoted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amren.com/ar/1996/08/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;from a quote&lt;/a&gt;. Carrel. Man the Unknown.

Someone recently recommended that article, and so it was fresh in my mind.

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So we don&#039;t want to become too hardy if our delicate nature is our strength (inclining us towards discipline perhaps).

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But yea, we&#039;ve grown soft. We need to become aware of the ever present dangers of this world to our people, and to our souls - though Jewish paranoia isn&#039;t quite what I mean :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The great white races owe their success to the perfection of their nervous system — a nervous system which, although very delicate and excitable, can, however, be disciplined.</p></blockquote>
<p>Quoted <a href="http://www.amren.com/ar/1996/08/" rel="nofollow">from a quote</a>. Carrel. Man the Unknown.</p>
<p>Someone recently recommended that article, and so it was fresh in my mind.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>So we don&#8217;t want to become too hardy if our delicate nature is our strength (inclining us towards discipline perhaps).</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>But yea, we&#8217;ve grown soft. We need to become aware of the ever present dangers of this world to our people, and to our souls &#8211; though Jewish paranoia isn&#8217;t quite what I mean :p</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-13305</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it grows in very harsh conditions (unlike us), so it has to be a tough little thing. It could never be as pretty as a rose, but we should aspire to be far more hardy than the delicate rose. There is too much pestilence in the garden.

As for our salvation not being dependent on the flesh, circumcision came to mind. As is also true of baptism, circumcision signifies being born into the covenant, not attaining to it by any human means. As Rushdoony taught, it also signifies that the parents &quot;cut off&quot; all hope that natural generation can save the child. He is to be saved by regeneration, an act of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it grows in very harsh conditions (unlike us), so it has to be a tough little thing. It could never be as pretty as a rose, but we should aspire to be far more hardy than the delicate rose. There is too much pestilence in the garden.</p>
<p>As for our salvation not being dependent on the flesh, circumcision came to mind. As is also true of baptism, circumcision signifies being born into the covenant, not attaining to it by any human means. As Rushdoony taught, it also signifies that the parents &#8220;cut off&#8221; all hope that natural generation can save the child. He is to be saved by regeneration, an act of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful tale and race; ugly flower.</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/11/soft-and-white-clean-and-bright/#comment-13302</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We stand corrected, Scott, and thanks for your always helpful input. It was not wise to use the word &quot;prerequisite.&quot; We think the idea that Calvin tried to convey on page one of book one of his masterpiece was a chicken-and-egg relationship between knowledge of God and knowledge of self. 

Calvin&#039;s heading: &quot;Without knowledge of self there is no knowledge of God.&quot; That sounds like a prerequisite, but he then writes, &quot;as these are connected together by many ties, it is not easy to determine which of the two precedes and gives birth to the other.&quot;

Calvin focuses mainly on the knowledge of self in its negative aspect, that &quot;we cannot aspire to Him in earnest until we have begun to be displeased with ourselves.&quot; This is certainly true, but it seems that more could be said about how the gift of faith resonates with our natural affections. In other words, those who are entirely given over to depravity, such as Aztecs who sacrifice their own children, are unlikely to ever trust in Christ because they are even more depraved than animals. Then you have the Japanese, who do possess natural affections (reverence for ancestors and posterity) but do not believe. Then you have the ancient Hebrews, who possessed both the covenant and natural affections, and still fell away. &quot;He came to His own and His own did not receive Him.&quot; So it&#039;s understandable that Calvin would focus on the fact that &quot;flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We stand corrected, Scott, and thanks for your always helpful input. It was not wise to use the word &#8220;prerequisite.&#8221; We think the idea that Calvin tried to convey on page one of book one of his masterpiece was a chicken-and-egg relationship between knowledge of God and knowledge of self. </p>
<p>Calvin&#8217;s heading: &#8220;Without knowledge of self there is no knowledge of God.&#8221; That sounds like a prerequisite, but he then writes, &#8220;as these are connected together by many ties, it is not easy to determine which of the two precedes and gives birth to the other.&#8221;</p>
<p>Calvin focuses mainly on the knowledge of self in its negative aspect, that &#8220;we cannot aspire to Him in earnest until we have begun to be displeased with ourselves.&#8221; This is certainly true, but it seems that more could be said about how the gift of faith resonates with our natural affections. In other words, those who are entirely given over to depravity, such as Aztecs who sacrifice their own children, are unlikely to ever trust in Christ because they are even more depraved than animals. Then you have the Japanese, who do possess natural affections (reverence for ancestors and posterity) but do not believe. Then you have the ancient Hebrews, who possessed both the covenant and natural affections, and still fell away. &#8220;He came to His own and His own did not receive Him.&#8221; So it&#8217;s understandable that Calvin would focus on the fact that &#8220;flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: S. C. Mooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. C. Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thesis of Calvin to which you refer is the starting point of his Institutes. To quote: &quot;Nearly all the wisdom we possess…consists of two parts: the knowledge of God and of ourselves. But, while joined by many bonds, which one precedes and brings forth the other is not easy to discern. In the first place, no one can look upon himself without immediately turning his thoughts to the contemplation of God, in whom he &#039;lives and moves&#039; [Acts 17:28].&quot; In the following paragraph, Calvin reiterates, &quot;Again, it is certain that man never achieves a clear knowledge of himself unless he has first looked upon God&#039;s face, and then descends from contemplating him to scrutinize himself.&quot; So, I think your synopsis of Calvin is a bit misstated. He did not really assert that knowledge of self is a &quot;prerequisite&quot; of achieving knowledge of God. More accurately, he asserted that knowledge of self and knowledge of God are involved in one another. But, he came more nearly to state the opposite of what you have said, as he said that, &quot;man never achieves a clear knowledge of himself unless he has first looked upon God&#039;s face…&quot; Your overall point, of course, has a lot of merit. After all, Paul said that God separated the nations by boundaries so that they might grope for Him and find Him. However, as Creator and therefore Determiner of all reality, He must have first place in everything. So, it overstates the case, I think, to conclude that, &quot;Europeans trusted in Christ because they first knew who they were.&quot; It would come nearer to what Calvin was trying to say if we were to exactly reverse that statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thesis of Calvin to which you refer is the starting point of his Institutes. To quote: &#8220;Nearly all the wisdom we possess…consists of two parts: the knowledge of God and of ourselves. But, while joined by many bonds, which one precedes and brings forth the other is not easy to discern. In the first place, no one can look upon himself without immediately turning his thoughts to the contemplation of God, in whom he &#8216;lives and moves&#8217; [Acts 17:28].&#8221; In the following paragraph, Calvin reiterates, &#8220;Again, it is certain that man never achieves a clear knowledge of himself unless he has first looked upon God&#8217;s face, and then descends from contemplating him to scrutinize himself.&#8221; So, I think your synopsis of Calvin is a bit misstated. He did not really assert that knowledge of self is a &#8220;prerequisite&#8221; of achieving knowledge of God. More accurately, he asserted that knowledge of self and knowledge of God are involved in one another. But, he came more nearly to state the opposite of what you have said, as he said that, &#8220;man never achieves a clear knowledge of himself unless he has first looked upon God&#8217;s face…&#8221; Your overall point, of course, has a lot of merit. After all, Paul said that God separated the nations by boundaries so that they might grope for Him and find Him. However, as Creator and therefore Determiner of all reality, He must have first place in everything. So, it overstates the case, I think, to conclude that, &#8220;Europeans trusted in Christ because they first knew who they were.&#8221; It would come nearer to what Calvin was trying to say if we were to exactly reverse that statement.</p>
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