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		<title>By: The Earth is the State&#8217;s and the Fullness Thereof &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13244</link>
		<dc:creator>The Earth is the State&#8217;s and the Fullness Thereof &#124; Spirit/Water/Blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that transcends, at least in the articulation, mere self-interest.&#8221; (See our recent post, To Grope for Him and Find Him.) As it says in Proverbs 8, all who hate God love death, and their self-imposed genocide will bring [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that transcends, at least in the articulation, mere self-interest.&#8221; (See our recent post, To Grope for Him and Find Him.) As it says in Proverbs 8, all who hate God love death, and their self-imposed genocide will bring [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tired</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13191</link>
		<dc:creator>tired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, joy. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, joy. </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13189</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true, from his poem Cretica. And there&#039;s a second obvious Pauline reference in this stanza of the poem, where Minos says to Zeus:

    They fashioned a tomb for thee, O holy and high one —
    The Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies!
    But thou art not dead: thou livest and abidest forever,
    For in thee we live and move and have our being.

So Paul was very familiar with Epimenides and quoted him when speaking to Athenians in Acts 17, telling them that it is Christ, not Zeus, who created all things &quot;according to his pleasure, and for his praise and glory,&quot; as it says in the first chapter of Colossians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true, from his poem Cretica. And there&#8217;s a second obvious Pauline reference in this stanza of the poem, where Minos says to Zeus:</p>
<p>    They fashioned a tomb for thee, O holy and high one —<br />
    The Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies!<br />
    But thou art not dead: thou livest and abidest forever,<br />
    For in thee we live and move and have our being.</p>
<p>So Paul was very familiar with Epimenides and quoted him when speaking to Athenians in Acts 17, telling them that it is Christ, not Zeus, who created all things &#8220;according to his pleasure, and for his praise and glory,&#8221; as it says in the first chapter of Colossians.</p>
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		<title>By: rrrr</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13188</link>
		<dc:creator>rrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about previous comment in which I misattributed a quote.

&quot;for in thee we live and move and have our being&quot; is a quote from the hymn to Zeus attributed to Epimenides, not Kleanthes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about previous comment in which I misattributed a quote.</p>
<p>&#8220;for in thee we live and move and have our being&#8221; is a quote from the hymn to Zeus attributed to Epimenides, not Kleanthes.</p>
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		<title>By: rrrr</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13187</link>
		<dc:creator>rrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In Him we live and move and have our being&quot; is a quote from a pagan hymn to Zeus by Kleanthes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In Him we live and move and have our being&#8221; is a quote from a pagan hymn to Zeus by Kleanthes.</p>
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		<title>By: apollonian</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13186</link>
		<dc:creator>apollonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christianity: Glorious Literary Aesthetic Affirming Greek/Western Objective, Rational
(Apollonian, 3 Oct 08)

Well Fr. John, as u can see, I guess my comment is there.  Note it (comment) features a rationalist-founded theologic analysis, Christianity defending/featuring the Objective-Greek-Aristotelian against Jew subjective which is so little noted--as by such as u, I submit.

CONCLUSION: Thus Christianity actually features reason against Jew mysticism and lies, this then presented by means of aesthetic and literature.  I suggest u try to keep ur emphasis upon substance rather than mere personality and style.  Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianity: Glorious Literary Aesthetic Affirming Greek/Western Objective, Rational<br />
(Apollonian, 3 Oct 08)</p>
<p>Well Fr. John, as u can see, I guess my comment is there.  Note it (comment) features a rationalist-founded theologic analysis, Christianity defending/featuring the Objective-Greek-Aristotelian against Jew subjective which is so little noted&#8211;as by such as u, I submit.</p>
<p>CONCLUSION: Thus Christianity actually features reason against Jew mysticism and lies, this then presented by means of aesthetic and literature.  I suggest u try to keep ur emphasis upon substance rather than mere personality and style.  Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. John</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13185</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Lord, is HE here on this site now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Lord, is HE here on this site now?</p>
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		<title>By: apollonian</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13184</link>
		<dc:creator>apollonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christianity: Quest For Truth, Hence Primary Virtue Of Honesty
(Apollonian, 2 Oct 08)

Note Christianity is quest for TRUTH--this in horrific face of organized, conspiratorial Jew lies, Christ the all-time exemplar and preceptor (Gosp. JOHN 8:32, 14:6).  Thus Christ affirms Greek/Western/Aristotelian OBJECTIVE reality (hence truth)--against Jew lies founded in SUBJECTIVISM and hubris.  For truth necessarily requires objectivity as basis thereto.

And note Jew lie is statement with no objective reality to back it up, the Jews&#039; excuse always that gentiles presume an objectivity which Jews loathe and reject in all their characteristic Pharisaism and indignity.  Thus Jews insist truth is mere matter of collective subjective determination of Jews, always in contempt of gentiles, always upon presumption of &quot;good&quot; and &quot;virtue&quot; which always serves Jews.  See RevisionistHistory.org, TruthTellers.org, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo on Talmud.

Thus note fundamental dichotomy for Christians is truth vs. lies, NEVER presumptuous, totally diversionary &quot;good-evil.&quot;  For there&#039;s no objective basis for &quot;good-evil,&quot; and Jews are mere psychopaths, not &quot;evil,&quot; a parasitic disease-of-opportunity taking advantage of hubristic, CYCLICALLY over-populated gentiles who imagine and contrive &quot;good-evil&quot; (Pelagian heresy) delusion, founded upon fallacy (question-begging, presumption).

Note further there is and could be no perfectly &quot;free&quot; human will, only God&#039;s will.  Thus absolute determinism founded upon cause-effect is foundation of glorious Greek science, etc.  Hence &quot;comfort,&quot; the only possible basis of happiness, is to effect one isn&#039;t capable of &quot;evil,&quot; given God&#039;s omnipotent determinism (cause-effect).  And killing Jews, exterminating their hook-nosed ugliness is greatest fun, hence &quot;virtue&quot;--but note this isn&#039;t too easy, and such Jew-expulsion must be considered most seriously.

Thus enduring curse of this world is hubris of gentile scum pretending to &quot;good-evil,&quot; foundation of (subsequent) Jew disease which must continue to reducing presently over-populated (still) gentiles.  But that glorious Historic/socio-biologic (see KevinMacDonald.net) CYCLIC culmination for &quot;Decline of the West,&quot; by Oswald Spengler, is evermore due in form of JEW-EXPULSION which has only been substantial accomplishment of that glorious Christian inspiration.

Proto Jew-expulsion was explored by gentile pagans before Christ--as in form of prosecution of criminal conspirators.  But Jews present a criminal conspiracy of immensely increased order-of-magnitude, a veritable RELIGION of criminality, Talmudic Ritual Murder (TRM).

And this Christian inspiration/epiphany, thus relieving Jew-expulsion, will come with rejection of such neo-Pelagianism fm Kant, Rousseau, Eng. Utilitarianism, etc., in form of HONESTY which rejects putrid &quot;good-evil&quot; delusion/fallacy which presently so be-devils mankind.

Hence then to decisively, meaningfully break present power of Jews, lies, and &quot;Decline of the West,&quot; and achieving aforementioned, liberating Jew-expulsion, requires utmost human reason, hence HONESTY, hence overthrow of lies and fraud, hence then in practice, (a) removal of present Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) COUNTERFEIT mechanism and fraud (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref.), and (b) removal/neutralizing of &quot;Judeo-Christian&quot; (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) heretics and dupes who act/serve as &quot;Praetorian Guard&quot; dogs for Jews.

CONCLUSION: Thus note overthrow of aforementioned Pelagianist (&quot;good-evil&quot;) hereticalism comes automatically as people achieve aforementioned HONESTY.  &quot;Good-evil&quot; delusion (Pelagianism) is anti-thesis to virtue of Honesty, crux to present historic/socio-biologic struggle and strangle-hold of hereticalist-complex upon and by which Jews rule through present ZOG-Mammon empire/beast, etc.  Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianity: Quest For Truth, Hence Primary Virtue Of Honesty<br />
(Apollonian, 2 Oct 08)</p>
<p>Note Christianity is quest for TRUTH&#8211;this in horrific face of organized, conspiratorial Jew lies, Christ the all-time exemplar and preceptor (Gosp. JOHN 8:32, 14:6).  Thus Christ affirms Greek/Western/Aristotelian OBJECTIVE reality (hence truth)&#8211;against Jew lies founded in SUBJECTIVISM and hubris.  For truth necessarily requires objectivity as basis thereto.</p>
<p>And note Jew lie is statement with no objective reality to back it up, the Jews&#8217; excuse always that gentiles presume an objectivity which Jews loathe and reject in all their characteristic Pharisaism and indignity.  Thus Jews insist truth is mere matter of collective subjective determination of Jews, always in contempt of gentiles, always upon presumption of &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;virtue&#8221; which always serves Jews.  See RevisionistHistory.org, TruthTellers.org, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo on Talmud.</p>
<p>Thus note fundamental dichotomy for Christians is truth vs. lies, NEVER presumptuous, totally diversionary &#8220;good-evil.&#8221;  For there&#8217;s no objective basis for &#8220;good-evil,&#8221; and Jews are mere psychopaths, not &#8220;evil,&#8221; a parasitic disease-of-opportunity taking advantage of hubristic, CYCLICALLY over-populated gentiles who imagine and contrive &#8220;good-evil&#8221; (Pelagian heresy) delusion, founded upon fallacy (question-begging, presumption).</p>
<p>Note further there is and could be no perfectly &#8220;free&#8221; human will, only God&#8217;s will.  Thus absolute determinism founded upon cause-effect is foundation of glorious Greek science, etc.  Hence &#8220;comfort,&#8221; the only possible basis of happiness, is to effect one isn&#8217;t capable of &#8220;evil,&#8221; given God&#8217;s omnipotent determinism (cause-effect).  And killing Jews, exterminating their hook-nosed ugliness is greatest fun, hence &#8220;virtue&#8221;&#8211;but note this isn&#8217;t too easy, and such Jew-expulsion must be considered most seriously.</p>
<p>Thus enduring curse of this world is hubris of gentile scum pretending to &#8220;good-evil,&#8221; foundation of (subsequent) Jew disease which must continue to reducing presently over-populated (still) gentiles.  But that glorious Historic/socio-biologic (see KevinMacDonald.net) CYCLIC culmination for &#8220;Decline of the West,&#8221; by Oswald Spengler, is evermore due in form of JEW-EXPULSION which has only been substantial accomplishment of that glorious Christian inspiration.</p>
<p>Proto Jew-expulsion was explored by gentile pagans before Christ&#8211;as in form of prosecution of criminal conspirators.  But Jews present a criminal conspiracy of immensely increased order-of-magnitude, a veritable RELIGION of criminality, Talmudic Ritual Murder (TRM).</p>
<p>And this Christian inspiration/epiphany, thus relieving Jew-expulsion, will come with rejection of such neo-Pelagianism fm Kant, Rousseau, Eng. Utilitarianism, etc., in form of HONESTY which rejects putrid &#8220;good-evil&#8221; delusion/fallacy which presently so be-devils mankind.</p>
<p>Hence then to decisively, meaningfully break present power of Jews, lies, and &#8220;Decline of the West,&#8221; and achieving aforementioned, liberating Jew-expulsion, requires utmost human reason, hence HONESTY, hence overthrow of lies and fraud, hence then in practice, (a) removal of present Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) COUNTERFEIT mechanism and fraud (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref.), and (b) removal/neutralizing of &#8220;Judeo-Christian&#8221; (JC&#8211;see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) heretics and dupes who act/serve as &#8220;Praetorian Guard&#8221; dogs for Jews.</p>
<p>CONCLUSION: Thus note overthrow of aforementioned Pelagianist (&#8220;good-evil&#8221;) hereticalism comes automatically as people achieve aforementioned HONESTY.  &#8220;Good-evil&#8221; delusion (Pelagianism) is anti-thesis to virtue of Honesty, crux to present historic/socio-biologic struggle and strangle-hold of hereticalist-complex upon and by which Jews rule through present ZOG-Mammon empire/beast, etc.  Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13183</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like they&#039;re having blog problems. We&#039;ll hope that they can get it fixed soon. I hope we didn&#039;t send a hacker their way. We have an uncanny knack for doing that. 

Note to Tim and Mike: Update your Wordpress version. The older versions are too insecure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like they&#8217;re having blog problems. We&#8217;ll hope that they can get it fixed soon. I hope we didn&#8217;t send a hacker their way. We have an uncanny knack for doing that. </p>
<p>Note to Tim and Mike: Update your WordPress version. The older versions are too insecure.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
		<link>http://spiritwaterblood.com/2008/10/to-grope-for-him-and-find-him/#comment-13182</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t seem to get butler-harris.org to come up???</description>
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